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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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Bob Smith

Chris,
Suppose we didn't want to circumvent Lenz' Law, but actually use it to our advantage.  What if...
- we were pulsing a high impedance single-stranded coil, something like 200+ turns of 28 or 30 AWG wire wound in one direction, on a ferrite core, or without the core, but shorted.

We would expect that with each pulse, there would be opposition to the incoming voltage pulse, in the form of an opposite polarity CEMF, would we not?

Here is my question:
Suppose we were to wrap a set of partnered coils over the primary, using heavier gauge (lower impedance) wire, perhaps around 20 gauge.  I'm wondering if the oppositely wound coils of the secondary would in fact pick up on both the incoming pulse AND the CEMF (Lenz' Law) response.  What do you think?
Bob

EMJunkie

Quote from: Bob Smith on January 17, 2016, 12:02:44 PM
Chris,
Suppose we didn't want to circumvent Lenz' Law, but actually use it to our advantage.  What if...
- we were pulsing a high impedance single-stranded coil, something like 200+ turns of 28 or 30 AWG wire wound in one direction, on a ferrite core, or without the core, but shorted.

We would expect that with each pulse, there would be opposition to the incoming voltage pulse, in the form of an opposite polarity CEMF, would we not?

Here is my question:
Suppose we were to wrap a set of partnered coils over the primary, using heavier gauge (lower impedance) wire, perhaps around 20 gauge.  I'm wondering if the oppositely wound coils of the secondary would in fact pick up on both the incoming pulse AND the CEMF (Lenz' Law) response.  What do you think?
Bob


Hi Bob,

Youre spot on the money here!!!

What is Lenz's Law:
Directly a result of Current flowing in the Secondary Coil, this is a magnetic Field, same thing, one is the other. This Magnetic Field Changes in time, 180 degrees out of phase to its Source.

What is the Source:
The Magnetic Field, Changing in time, that invokes Electromagnetic Induction in the Secondary Coil, this is the Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field, Number of turns of the secondary Coil, for which the equation is: emf = -NdPhi/dt

I was speaking with a friend today, the following analogy came up:

Quote

Interestingly, this Flux is "Used" by Loading it
As Lenz Reflectance kicks in, Flux is destroyed
This has huge implications

so what does it turn into, is it transformed into output Electrical Energy? Is it like Water Ripples and one wave comming back on the wave moving forward do a nullification?

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF88S-w4GaM

and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LrrWvfyqLo

Thus the term "Super Position"


here is the Auditory example of "Super Position"

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMU69mEanoY


I guess the most important question is, how do we stop, or reduce Dampening?
To stop or reduce the Flux Cancelation.

...

Well,
if Wave X is moving forward,
Wave Y is reflectance, moving backward, and destroys Wave X,
but then if we introduce Wave Z, that supports Wave X, moving Forward,
and Wave Z is a function of Wave Y's Output,
why would we see an increase in Electromagnetic Induction?

...

To achieve Output Energy greater than Input, there must be some off set
to offset the "Super Position"


...

I think Nature is Genius! It is Nature we learn from
Sometimes what we might view as a Restrictive Law just might be the Law that opens up a new world!
I think by studying the potentials of these laws it just might open new door ways


...


Well, I think it really depends on where one thinks Power comes from.


Power, if is it from E = MC^2, then the Magnetic Field Intensity impressed on a Conductor at 90.... you know the rest, then, by Increasing the Magnetic Field Strength will produce more output power


the other way to look at this is, keeping the same Magnetic Field Strength, reducing the collective reflectance on the Input so the Input can do more work


If Electromagnetic Induction is directly a result of the Magnetic Flux Cancelation, then reducing Reflectance will not help, but we know this not to be the case



So, youre quite right, we need Lenz's Law, its the field that we use to reinforce the feed back!!! The harder Lenz's Law pushes back, the harder the Feedback pushes forward!

The main objective is, to reduce the negative effects on the Source, the Input, let the Input do what its doing with as little reflectance as possible.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


EMJunkie


Another good video

The Original Double Slit Experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuv6hY6zsd0

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Bob Smith

Quote from: EMJunkie on January 18, 2016, 03:28:46 AM
Hi Bob,
Youre spot on the money here!!!
What is Lenz's Law:
Directly a result of Current flowing in the Secondary Coil, this is a magnetic Field, same thing, one is the other. This Magnetic Field Changes in time, 180 degrees out of phase to its Source.

What is the Source:
The Magnetic Field, Changing in time, that invokes Electromagnetic Induction in the Secondary Coil, this is the Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field, Number of turns of the secondary Coil, for which the equation is: emf = -NdPhi/dt

I was speaking with a friend today, the following analogy came up:


So, youre quite right, we need Lenz's Law, its the field that we use to reinforce the feed back!!! The harder Lenz's Law pushes back, the harder the Feedback pushes forward!
The main objective is, to reduce the negative effects on the Source, the Input, let the Input do what its doing with as little reflectance as possible.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org
Hi Chris
Thanks very much for the detailed feedback.
I have a new friend, his name is LENZ!!!  Ha, ha.  ;D
I'll check out the video links when I get home from work.
All the best,
Bob

EMJunkie

@Bob,

I use the term: "Lenz's Law Free Power Extraction" in my pdf: Guidelines to Bucking Coils

Depending on ones perspective, this could be construed to mean a total cancelation of Lenz's Law.

From the Energy standpoint, the Product of Voltage and Current over Time, Lenz's Law can not be Cancelled. Simply because a Flowing Current is a Magnetic Field. To stop the Magnetic Field, stops the Flow of Current. Thus stops the Electromagnetic Induction Process.

I made the quote some time back:

Quote from: EMJunkie on June 10, 2015, 04:09:31 AM

Call me a Lenz's Law Engineer!


Remember, Lenz's Law is a Changing Magnetic Field over time... What is the first requirement of Electromagnetic Induction?

You are on the right track!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org