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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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minnie

 For any power transformer the max. flux density is when your transformer is
  at idle.

EMJunkie




Quote from: minnie on March 12, 2016, 06:08:50 PM
For any power transformer the max. flux density is when your transformer is
  at idle.



Yes John, this is correct.

When a Transformer is correctly loaded, at t = random, the Net Magnetic Field sums to Zero.

But at t + 1 the Input Current must increase until peak Current is reached. As this is happening, there is an increase in Magnetic Field in the Transformer. This is seen as the BH Curve, or known as Hysteresis Curve.



   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: Net Zero Magnetic Field only means the Primary Magnetic Field is Opposed by the Secondary Magnetic Field!!! This is a Vector Sum of EACH Magnetic Field, summing to Zero!!! It does not mean there is no Magnetic Fields inside the Transformer! The Windings surely know this by the Stress that is exerted on each Primary and Secondary!


EMJunkie

Quote from: EMJunkie on March 12, 2016, 06:18:29 PM


Yes John, this is correct.

When a Transformer is correctly loaded, at t = random, the Net Magnetic Field sums to Zero.

But at t + 1 the Input Current must increase until peak Current is reached. As this is happening, there is an increase in Magnetic Field in the Transformer. This is seen as the BH Curve, or known as Hysteresis Curve.



   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: Net Zero Magnetic Field only means the Primary Magnetic Field is Opposed by the Secondary Magnetic Field!!! This is a Vector Sum of EACH Magnetic Field, summing to Zero!!! It does not mean there is no Magnetic Fields inside the Transformer! The Windings surely know this by the Stress that is exerted on each Primary and Secondary!



This, Opposing Forces, we are all aware of: See attached picture


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie




I should point out, if there is No Hysteresis, then a Conventional Transformer cannot function!

So technically what John said is not correct. It can be seen to have some truth, under certain conditions. E.G: Vector Sum of Fields...

Technically, the maximum Flux Density (B) is at Peak Input Current, given by the prior mentioned equation:

Quote from: EMJunkie on March 12, 2016, 05:29:37 PM

B = µNI/L

So Gauss (B) = Permeability (µ) * Ampere Turns (NI) / Length (L)



Lenz's Law, the Magnetic Field of the Secondary Winding, is in oposition to the Magnetic Field of the Primary!



   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Magluvin

Quote from: EMJunkie on March 12, 2016, 07:17:34 PM


I should point out, if there is No Hysteresis, then a Conventional Transformer cannot function!

So technically what John said is not correct. It can be seen to have some truth, under certain conditions. E.G: Vector Sum of Fields...

Technically, the maximum Flux Density (B) is at Peak Input Current, given by the prior mentioned equation:

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


That depends on the secondary field due to loading. The secondary produces an opposing field to the primary.

If we wound a 1 to 1 ratio primary and secondary windings, say on opposite sides of the core. pri on the left and secondary on the right, with space between the ends of the windings at the top and bottom, and we simply short out the secondary, when we apply the ac input to the primary, you will be able to detect N at the top of the core and S at the bottom of the core, and opposite in the other phase. So loading the sec opposing the primary field heavily completely disrupts the cores ability to have max flux loops through the circle of the core. If it were an 'ideal' situation, AC input to the primary with the secondary shorted, the core should basically act like an AC electro magnet, alternating N and S at the top and bottom open areas of the core.  And also that N and S leakage can happen in the hole of the core from the top open area between the windings and the bottom. Probably more likely the preferred path as it is the shortest distance.

Now wind the sec first all the way around 1 layer. Then wind the primary around 1 layer on top of the sec.  When we add input to the primary there will be continuous loops of flux in the core. But when we say short the secondary, we have an opposing field developed. Will that not reduce the amount of flux in the core as a whole?? ;) So the max flux in that core is when the sec is not loaded. Loading the secondary makes the core less visible to the primary. ;) ;)

Thats why reducing the inductance of the primary and increased current flows through it, happens when we load the secondary. Loading the secondary reduces the amount of core attraction available to the primary. No core, higher inductance. ;)

Didnt understand that till yesterday, and been thinking about it for a long time. 



Mags