Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

Lenz's Law is a Magnetic Field Changing in time!!! It is 180 degrees out of phase to its creator, the primary, Opposing. For an Air Core Transformer, see the flux lines on the coils below: "Air Core Transformer Half Cycle"

So if the primary magnetic field induces flow in one direction, the Lenz magnetic field should produce flow in the opposite direction? Or is the direction of flow is the same just 180deg. out of phase?

Hi Shylo,

Yes, the Current (I) and Magnetic Field (B) are all in opposition. See the Dot Notation on the below Transformer Schematic. You can use the Right Hand Rule also to determine the Current Flow and the Magnetic Field.

My thinking is it must be the opposite direction , that's why there is drag or cogging.
The opposite direction can be siphoned off and stored before it causes the drag effect, and then be used to assist the input.

Exactly Right!

I'm using a magnet rotor and coils so maybe it doesn't work the same as with stationary coils, but they are basically the same , a varying magnetic field inducing coils.

The end result is the same with Lenz's Law. It will always oppose the action of the Source.

Lenz law fits the description of what happens (the lag) But I'm not sure that is what is happening.
It's like saying 1+1=2 that's the law, I say 3-1=2 , two different things but the same result.

Yes, I use a similar analogy. If one is looking at the Mechanical Input to an Electrical "Generator", you could say, 1 (Mechanical Energy to the shaft) + -1 (Lenz's Law, Resistance to the Mechanical Energy) = 0 (Energy is transformed into Heat and Electrical Energy) This means there is a complete Transformation of energy which satisfies the Conservation Law.

Is there a way to see Lenz in action?

This is one of the most sensible questions I have sever seen on this forum!

Yes!!!

Experiment:

You will need:
   1: Neodymium Magnet
   2: Coil of Wire - Air Core
   3: About 3 Minutes to do this experiment, several hours to think about it.

Procedure:
   1: Tie the ends of the coil together (Short Circuit the coil)
   2: Sweep the Neodymium Magnet past the coil
   3: Using your sense's, Feel/Touch, Sight... determine what the fields are doing to each other when there is Maximum Current flowing in the Coil (Short Circuit)

Current Flows, but Magnetic Fields Oppose. EMF is Generated, but Magnetic Fields Oppose.

This is Lenz's Law, the Repulsion you will feel, between Magnet and Coil. Also see this post for more information.

Sorry I'm just not sure I believe it.
artv
 

Try these little experiments and research your results. Cross Verify your data. Belief and Fact will eventually merge.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[shylo]

I just built a new rotor today, because the other had very poor precision in the gaps between magnets and coils.
But the new rotor is a continuous steel plate , whereas the previous was individual steel arms holding the magnets.
The new rotor is giving out more Lenz , I think it's because the magnetic field is being transfered from pole to pole via the continuous steel.(more eddy currents=more lenz)?
It's more output but requires more input.
Is there anything about isolating the fields , not shielding , because I've tried and haven't seen anything yet.
I'm thinking the individual steel arms contain the field within a given area , whereas the steel plate spreads it out?
Does this make any sense or am I chasing my tail?
artv

[EMJunkie]

I find this very hard to believe but seeing it with my own eyes it is obvious how hard it is to grasp such things.

Geometry...

It has been said by so many people: 'Bucking Coils have Zero Output'   -   This is not true.

The secret is, as I have said all along: "Note: Importantly, for this device to work, Current must be flowing in the Output Coils! " - Ref: Guidelines to Bucking Coils

Again, I reiterate, Current (I) through turns (N) is the Magnetic Field. They are one in the same thigns. (The SI base unit for electric current is the ampere. 1 ampere is equal to 1.25663705427 gilbert) Here you can see a relationship!

In the below picture, I show 4 Coils, Partnered Output Coils (In Gold) Excitation Coils (In Green).

In this video: Partnered Output Coils - Why it's Important to have Current Flowing!

I clearly show, if there is no current flowing, there is no output on the Partnered Output Coils! Why, why is this so?

By exciting Coil One (One of the Green Coils) with a Sine Wave from the Amplifier this does create a Magnetic Field and the Core does see this change. Current can be drawn from Coil Two (the other Green Coil).

But, importantly Current can not be drawn by the Partnered Output Coils! Not unless Coil Two is drawing Current! Why?

Well, its a field effect situation. Coil One (the Primary) creates its own magnetic Field, Coil Two (the Secondary) only creates a Magnetic Field, which Opposes Coil One (the Primary), when there is a Load placed accross it. This is Current Flow, through N Turns, thus a Magnetic Field.

Again each Oppose each other. From Coil One to Coil Two.

Because we have two opposing Fields, the Partnered Output Coils will also, as a result of Faradays Law of Electromagnetic Induction, have an EMF Induced in them, each opposing the Fields that Created them!!!

There is a brute force way to make this work also, which I have shown before, and no one ever picked this up. This way is what Bill Alek also shows. By Forcing two Fields into opposition on the same core on the Input Stage, one will use a large Current (I), which will make the device work, but I have not had a very good result doing it this way. Output is most always less than the Input!

My Point here is: There is two ways to make this work, the hard way, expensive way, ot the easy way, the efficient way.

I have shown the hard way in this video: Partnered Output Coil - Excitation, Reactive Power Re-Circulation, the easy way in the above video.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

I just built a new rotor today, because the other had very poor precision in the gaps between magnets and coils.
But the new rotor is a continuous steel plate , whereas the previous was individual steel arms holding the magnets.
The new rotor is giving out more Lenz , I think it's because the magnetic field is being transfered from pole to pole via the continuous steel.(more eddy currents=more lenz)?
It's more output but requires more input.
Is there anything about isolating the fields , not shielding , because I've tried and haven't seen anything yet.
I'm thinking the individual steel arms contain the field within a given area , whereas the steel plate spreads it out?
Does this make any sense or am I chasing my tail?
artv

Hi Shylo - As long as youre learning something, I would not say youre chasing your tail!!!

Eddy Currents are opposition to the Source, yes they are a Lenz's Law effect but depending on who you talk to you might get different descriptions.

What you have described is also seen here: Lenz's Law with Copper Pipe

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[shylo]

I've done that test with aluminum and copper, Lenz is the explanation, what causes the reduction in decent.
But it happens in a pulsating action, that is strong than , weak ,right , it is not steady , it fluxuates, correct?
Maybe the up and down speeds are due to imperfections in the surface,   of the surface the magnet is in contact with the copper or aluminum?
That will change how things flow.
It's a tough one.
artv