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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie




We already know, we have the scope shots!

Much is standard Induction through the wave. Some Capacitance on the Output, may make the wave shift the Degree of Offset slightly...

Then we get a big Spike where one or both Fets are switched off. Why?

Well Graham gives us a clue, see image, from 1:05:49 in the Video.

Graham talks about using the Output Current Momentum to reverse itself. He uses a Fish Tank full of Water with a Splitter in the middle, with Water Levels different on each side.

Notice, the Input is mostly off by this stage, there is no Input only a few Milliseconds later, so there is no Input to Output Imbalance!!! But there is still Current showing on the Output Wave Form!!! This is really key to seeing that the Two Output Coils are still doing something after the spike. After the Input is off!!!

Also, the Output Current from One Coil is shown!!! The second/Other Coil could very well have a different Current Wave Form!!! See above Images.


   Chris Sykes
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forest

Quote from: EMJunkie on August 09, 2016, 03:58:48 AM



In analysis of Graham Gunderson's Output Circuit, and because no one else is doing it, maybe because they are stuck on the Input Circuit, I think its very important to prove facts.

The below images show that the Mosfets are directly connecting the Output Coils to the Capacitor Bank directly. As above, we see Conduction:

   1: From Source to Drain.
   2: From Drain to Source if the Mosfet is On.

If the Mosfet is off, then we still have Conduction:

   1: From Source to Drain.

The reason we see a mostly Sinusoidal Current wave up untill the Switch off of the Fet/Fets. Look for the straight edges of the Fet Legs, or Terminals, we can clearly see the Fet is directly connecting the Negative Terminal of the Capacitoors to the Coils, where the Positive Terminal is directly connected to the Coils.

   Chris Sykes
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EMJunkie,


What is the purpose of C1 ? I'm trying to do something very close to that but using HV transistors MJE13009. Do you think it is possible to get around 100W output in pure sinewave at 100V when driving such transistor with sinewave signal ? That would be the simplest pure sinewave converter.

EMJunkie




So, let's surmise, use some Magnetic Logic to try to prove some points.

Lets assume for a minute, only one Mosfet was switched off (Q2). The other Mosfet (Q1) is still on, there is Current flowing in this Coil (L2), not seen on the Scope, the Coil (L1) is Zeroed instantly by the switch off, and then instantly switched back into the Circuit, then where would the Source Magnetic Field come from - Coil (L2)?

Yes, the Coil (L1) see's the Coil (L2) as its Primary, thus the Magnetic Field still moving in time, will Invoke an Opposite EMF, seen on the Scope, in the Coil (L1) - Now, does this explain the Continuation on, of the Current Wave, and the Polarity reversal we can see on the scope? It sure does...

Is there another way we can explain the polarity reversal? - No not yet...

What will happen to the Fields between these two coils at this point in time? - Yes, they will be opposite, equal and opposite.

There is a good reason for the Off Time on the Input, there is a good reason why Graham Switched where he does the Coil (L1) Also as was said, this part is where all the excess energy comes from, as was stated, it is because of the Spike, it is responsible for the Polarity Reversal!!!

It is Critical to see the Polarity Reversal on Coil (L1) for what it really is!!!

It is possible that Graham may be getting more Energy Out than was measured also, not a lot but a bit...

   Chris Sykes
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EMJunkie

Quote from: forest on August 09, 2016, 05:38:57 AM

EMJunkie,


What is the purpose of C1 ? I'm trying to do something very close to that but using HV transistors MJE13009. Do you think it is possible to get around 100W output in pure sinewave at 100V when driving such transistor with sinewave signal ? That would be the simplest pure sinewave converter.


Hi Forest, its quite possible this is just a Snubber Cap, really just a protection Cap for transients. I really find it hard to believe there is any resonant component to it as it is far to small. Mind you, at 50KHz just mabe there is enough there.

More likely the AC Caps on the output, along with the Big DC ones are possibly responsible for a Shift in Phase slightly.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie

Quote from: EMJunkie on August 09, 2016, 05:49:47 AM


So, let's surmise, use some Magnetic Logic to try to prove some points.

Lets assume for a minute, only one Mosfet was switched off (Q2). The other Mosfet (Q1) is still on, there is Current flowing in this Coil (L2), not seen on the Scope, the Coil (L1) is Zeroed instantly by the switch off, and then instantly switched back into the Circuit, then where would the Source Magnetic Field come from - Coil (L2)?

Yes, the Coil (L1) see's the Coil (L2) as its Primary, thus the Magnetic Field still moving in time, will Invoke an Opposite EMF, seen on the Scope, in the Coil (L1) - Now, does this explain the Continuation on, of the Current Wave, and the Polarity reversal we can see on the scope? It sure does...

Is there another way we can explain the polarity reversal? - No not yet...

What will happen to the Fields between these two coils at this point in time? - Yes, they will be opposite, equal and opposite.

There is a good reason for the Off Time on the Input, there is a good reason why Graham Switched where he does the Coil (L1) Also as was said, this part is where all the excess energy comes from, as was stated, it is because of the Spike, it is responsible for the Polarity Reversal!!!

It is Critical to see the Polarity Reversal on Coil (L1) for what it really is!!!

It is possible that Graham may be getting more Energy Out than was measured also, not a lot but a bit...

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org



To expand further, an illustration may help understand this.

You have to ask the question:

Quote

How can the Output Current flip, mid Cycle?


The Timing Cycle, best I can determine:

   1: (Standard Induction.png) - Input Invokes Induction, Wave in Red and Blue Shown, SW1 and SW2 are closed. Polarity dots shown are Magnetic Field Polarity just before the Spike.
   2: (Switch Off) - Input is at 261 odd degrees, nearly off. SW1 is nearly about to open, SW2 is switched off and turned back on after around 500us
   3: (Secondary Induction.png) - SW2 is on, although it doesnt matter, the Mosfet is now in reverse Conduction shown on the last page, the Polarity of the Coil has changed, Electromagnetic Induction has reversed, and L1 is L3's Primary. The Output Current Polarity reversal which is seen on the scope is as Graham describes in the Video.



Please Note: L3's Polarity is the same as L2 (The Primary) when it was on!!!


Quote from: EMJunkie on September 13, 2015, 07:52:03 PM

P.S: Why is Three the Magic Number? Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction... Newton's Laws of Motion...




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