Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg489659/#msg489659


Suppose two primaries coils and two secondaries coils in the middle of the primaries.

If the primaries are in attraction mode the only field transversing both secondaries is:
N ---------------> S. As per Lenz, the induced field of each secondary will be <-------- in one secondary and  <-------- in the other secondary. Both opposing to the primary field. How the hell are you going to buck both secondaries? Impossible. No way

If the primaries are in repulsion their fields will be N -------> <--------- N  . In this case one secondary will oppose to its closer primary field: <--------  and the other secondary will oppose to the primary field of the other primary coil:  -------->. There you have two bucking secondary coils. Perfect bucking output coils. In this case you may use pulsed DC. You just need to collide two fields in the center point, right in the point between both secondaries coild, no need for movement of the fields in this design based in flux linking.

Summary :

Attraction  N ------------------------>  S
                       <--------    <---------

Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  S
                       <---------    --------->

See this sketch of Daniel Dingel device. The second sketch is drawn by me

Hi Hanon, nice to see you back!

I dont fully understand, so please correct me if I go off on a tangent.

Any Primary Coil exerts a Magnetising Force on a Core, this is Hysteresis, seen as the BH Curve on the scope. This means there is a Polarity to the Magnetisation at any one point in time exerted by the Primary.

Secondary Induction:

   A Secondary Coil, or any other Coil, via Electromagnetic Induction, will always oppose the Action of the Primary. This is entirely a Magnetic Field Interaction, which as we know is a result of Current in the Secondary Coil.

If the Magnetic Field Interactions are delayed in a consecutive order, then we can achieve a Tertiary Induction.


Tertiary Induction:

   A Tertiary Coil can see induction from a Secondary Magnetic Field when, there is an imbalance in the Primary Acting Forces. See above post. These are subject to the same Magnetic Interactions, but from different Sources!

Understanding the above post is important.

So, I hope this answers your question. If a Primary is active, with Magnetic Field X, and no other Coil has a greater Magnetic Field than X, all coils in your system will all induce an EMF at the same time that all oppose the Primary unless a delay, or a buffered response is introduced.

I have posted this many times, but if you read carefully, you will see there is a very good reason for the line of text: See attached pdf.

The inducted voltage in coil B must be larger than that of coil C, otherwise the transformer will require more input power than the output power.

This is just one way to achieve the desired result.

A long time ago (April 16, 2014), I posted a very interesting experiment: Two Output pulses for one Input pulse- Very easy to just pass this off as Fly Back, and it is to a degree, but much more is going on here.

Of course, the dot polaritys change when the input is off. Coils then create opposing Magnetic Fields.

This does show very clearly a Phase difference, and an interesting result was obtained.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[hanon]

http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg489659/#msg489659


Suppose two primaries coils and two secondaries coils in the middle of the primaries.

If the primaries are in attraction mode the only field transversing both secondaries is:
N ---------------> S. As per Lenz, the induced field of each secondary will be <-------- in one secondary and  <-------- in the other secondary. Both opposing to the primary field. How the hell are you going to buck both secondaries? Impossible. No way

If the primaries are in repulsion their fields will be N -------> <--------- N  . In this case one secondary will oppose to its closer primary field: <--------  and the other secondary will oppose to the primary field of the other primary coil:  -------->. There you have two bucking secondary coils. Perfect bucking output coils. In this case you may use pulsed DC. You just need to collide two fields in the center point, right in the point between both secondaries coild, no need for movement of the fields in this design based in flux linking.

Summary :

Attraction  N ------------------------>  S
                       <--------    <---------

Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  N
                       <---------    --------->

I attach a new sketch to clarify what I meant. It is not related with the delayed Lenz effect,although that could be another good subject to study and justify many things

If two inducers are placed in repulsion and two induced coils in between, then each induced coil is just transversed by one inducer field, the one from the nearest inducer. That's the key. Both inducer fields collide in the center in a point between both induced coils and are expelled from the core. Therefore each induced coil is under the action of one inducer field. The two induced fields, which oppose to each inducer field, will be bucking each other  <------------   ------------->  . With vectors :   B1induced + B2induced = 0 . I have not tested it, but theoretically it is a perfect bucking system.


Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  N    (inducer coils)
                       <---------    --------->         (induced coils)

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[EMJunkie]

I attach a new sketch to clarify what I meant. It is not related with the delayed Lenz effect,although that could be another good subject to study and justify many things

If two inducers are placed in repulsion and two induced coils in between, then each induced coil is just transversed by one inducer field, the one from the nearest inducer. That's the key. Both inducer fields collide in the center in a point between both induced coils and are expelled from the core. Therefore each induced coil is under the action of one inducer field. The two induced fields, which oppose to each inducer field, will be bucking each other  <------------   ------------->  . With vectors :   B1induced + B2induced = 0 . I have not tested it, but theoretically it is a perfect bucking system.


Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  N    (inducer coils)
                       <---------    --------->         (induced coils)

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Sorry, yes i see what you mean now. Yes this experiment can give interesting results with some fiddling!

Because the Input is essentially Magnetically Shorted, there will be a lot of Input Current right off the bat. A Lot of Losses!!! But, this is an interesting experiment to try, a lot can be learnt from this!!!

I did do a Video on this sometime back, I made it private because I thought it was a bit confusing and was not really what I wanted to show, because of the confusing aspect of it. But lots can be learnt there!

Somethng to think on:
   If the Input see's a very Restrictive System, then a lot of "Power" will be needed!!! If the Input see's a System with No Restriction, then the Input can be VERY Reactive, getting all(+) your Input back!!!

Input Coils in this manner, can be, very restrictive. I used to use the term "Choke Off" but this is not really a very good term.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[Mr XYZ]

This little contribution is meant to supplement the excellent work presented by Chris Sykes, focusing on his theme of  'Partnered Output Coils" except that I am also offering the idea that Partnered Battery Sources together with Partnered Output Coils is feasible as well. This is because such a symmetric and balanced type of circuit design opens up more possibilities for mutual or reciprocal feedback and regeneration of batteries, as well as balanced lead-out of output energies!

Here below, I will freely offer several suggested designs, some of which I have partially but not exhaustively tested, which could be combined in with some of Chris's circuit designs. Meanwhile, since I last contributed here in May 2015, much progress has been made, and I have continued to build and test some of my own Quadrature rotating devices, with or without the addition of these driving/feedback circuits.

Positive and/or Constructive comments are welcome, but I do not visit the forum every day. Enjoy! ~

[EMJunkie]

This little contribution is meant to supplement the excellent work presented by Chris Sykes, focusing on his theme of  'Partnered Output Coils" except that I am also offering the idea that Partnered Battery Sources together with Partnered Output Coils is feasible as well. This is because such a symmetric and balanced type of circuit design opens up more possibilities for mutual or reciprocal feedback and regeneration of batteries, as well as balanced lead-out of output energies!

Here below, I will freely offer several suggested designs, some of which I have partially but not exhaustively tested, which could be combined in with some of Chris's circuit designs. Meanwhile, since I last contributed here in May 2015, much progress has been made, and I have continued to build and test some of my own Quadrature rotating devices, with or without the addition of these driving/feedback circuits.

Positive and/or Constructive comments are welcome, but I do not visit the forum every day. Enjoy! ~

Hi Mr XYZ!!!

Thank you for posting! I completely agree, this is a brilliant post, Thank You!!! Immediately, I thought of the work John Bedini has shared for decades about the Tesla Switch as soon as I saw this.

It may be the case that John was trying to say something to us all those years back? I personally think so!

That aside, even though its a great analogy, this work of yours is excellent! A really good way to think and practice the actual Electrical Energy functions, Transformation and "Generation".

Thank you for posting this work Mr XYZ!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org