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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie




Some more progress from Partzman:

Quote from: Partzman http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3319.msg57241#msg57241

I am surprised that no one has asked for the power measurements off the PM3 core arrangement without any pm bias! So, below are scope shots of measurements without the pms and supporting ferrite parts. As can be seen, the pin = .361w and the pout = .353w for a COP = .98.

The PM3 device is very sensitive to the pm placement on the ferrite supports and any gaps. The next two pairs of scope pix A and B demonstrate this quite well and the measurements are taken from the same circuit as above only with the pms added and adjusted. I'll leave it to the reader to calculate the COPs.

Please note the CH1(yel) to CH2(blu) (input voltage and current) phase differences between each of the test pairs.

pm


I think it is important to note, this sounds very much the same as something we have already covered. Floyd Sweets Early Work, yes you guessed it, I have posted it a million times:

Partzman is getting a COP = 4.249

Well done Partzman!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie




For the readers, Please read: http://overunity.com/15307/lenz-free-generator/msg491263/#msg491263

There is some 10 or so posts that you may find interesting if youre following.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


EMJunkie




Our list of OU Hero's is growing!

Its about time!!!

Not in specific Order, just as I remember them.

   1: Wistiti (POC Toriod)
   2: Thaelin (POC Toriod)
   3: Tinman (Brad) (Rotary Transformer)
   4: Юрий Лиховид (Anti-Lenz effect) Independantly invented the (POC Toriod)
   5: Graham Gunderson (Magnetic Implosion Transformer)
   6: Partzman (POC Transformer)


There is perhaps 12 that have not come forward publically, some that are doing some excellent work, but not prepared to share with the public.

Please remember, we can only do this together, there is nothing gained if we dont share!!! It will be lost again, as it has been in the past!!!

Its now your turn!!!

Three Coils, make em Buck and tune to the optimium point. Partnered Output Coils!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: You would be surprised if I named the names of others that have achieved OU if I mentioned them!!! I trust they will help the cause when they are ready!!!




ramset

I honestly believe a lot of people would be quite surprised to see even One independent verification
of any partnered output coil  self running [POC batteries not included]].

Just one will do !

it has been 1 or 2 years since the resident metrologist fastidiously followed your instructions on your original Free energy claim here and found no such Free energy
actually he found errors in your measurement protocols ,I am not saying that as a slight ..he is after all a trained metrologist and making proper measurement is his field of study and practice.... to the Highest industry standards .

perhaps since you are assisting Magluvin and Forrest you could assist them in reaching this goal ?
and that way someone will actually get to see this Free energy and actually get to see how you measure it ?

and then you can add it to YOUR scoreboard of success's and Life achievements.[which I might add does seem to be posted in a manner which enhances your stance in  your community ??? and seemingly without permission or even qualification
from the persons on the list ??

sincere and hopeful

Chet K



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

EMJunkie

Quote from: ramset on September 09, 2016, 05:11:17 AM
I honestly believe a lot of people would be quite surprised to see even One independent verification
of any partnered coil self running.

Just one will do !

it has been 1 or 2 years since the resident metrologist fastidiously followed your instructions on your original Free energy claim here and found no such Free energy
actually he found errors in your measurement protocols ,I am not saying that as a slight ..he is after all a trained metrologist and making proper measurement is his field of study and practice.... to the Highest industry standards .

perhaps since you are assisting Magluvin and Forrest you could assist them in reaching this goal ?
and that way someone will actually get to see this Free energy and actually get to see how you measure it ?

and then you can add it to YOUR scoreboard of success's and Life achievements.[which I might add does seem to be posted in a manner which enhances your stance in  your community ??? and seemingly without permission or even qualification
from the persons on the list ??

sincere and hopeful

Chet K




Hi Chet - A Fair post, even though I am reading a fair bit of negativity in there.


Lets look at permissions first. Publically posted information is just that, Public, without protection. Copyright can be no good to protect some things in many scenarios, also. Perhaps the reason many people do not post publically?

So, if its public, anyone expecting to not see others make use of it, legally, is kidding themselves.

I dont want to approach this in the wrong way, but really, you have been told twice now by very qualified people: First, from our resident metrologist:

Quote from: TinselKoala http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3319.msg57155#msg57155

partzman, looking very good there I think.

A couple of comments:

In Spokane1's latest diagrams of the Synchronous Rectifier portion, he has the "dot" end of one secondary connected to the Drain of its mosfet, and the "non-dot" end of the other secondary connected to the Drain of its mosfet.
You have both "dot" ends connected to the drains. 
I get confused about winding sense CW vs CCW, current direction and the "bucking" arrangement, since whether or not fields are bucking depends on the current strength and direction and the winding sense as well as the time it takes to produce the fields and reverse them in the first place.
So I don't know exactly what effects are produced where. But at a first pass, it would seem that Spokane1's arrangement is more like a center tap in a coil that is all wound in one direction, whereas your arrangement is more like a center tapped coil that reverses winding direction at the center tap. In other words, an "EMJunkie" type arrangement. Am I thinking about this secondary winding arrangement correctly? And what is the functional difference in performance between your version and Spokane1's?

And  ... grrr..... you are not exactly consistent with your trace color assignments in your three plots! I spent some time looking at the first one and could see that it agrees pretty closely with the Gunderson shot, with one significant difference. But then when I started looking at the other two I became confused again because some of the trace colors had changed or you plotted different voltage points or something. Maybe I just need more coffee ... or new glasses.....    :o



Also by Brad, one of our OU Hero's:


Quote from: Tinman http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3319.msg57155#msg57155

Quote from: partzman on 2016-08-31, 02:32:39

It is slow here so I decided to post my progress in simulating a likeness of Graham's device. The attached sim is a model of a real transformer that is fabricated out of ferrite E cores in P material from Magnetics with a .010" gap in all legs. The ur is ~3000 on both E's.

The transformer pix shows that three windings are used but the two outside secondaries are left open in the sim so only the primary is driven. Each winding is 200 turns. I realize that G used U cores but I want to prove that I can accurately simulate a known core/coil arrangement before attempting simulation with additional unknowns.

The primary inductance of the actual transformer measured with a Genrad bridge is 5.1mH. The sim calculation from the plot is 5.17mH. In gyrator-capacitance modeling of inductors, the inductance may be calculated as L = N^2/Peff. Peff is the effective permeance of all core paths (in this case wrt to the middle leg of the core) and N is the number of turns. In this example, Peff = 131e-9 which calculates to 5.23mH. At this point Pleak is a best guess and will probably need adjustment when leakage inductance tests are done.

One may notice that I have used both B and H sources to model the gyrators. The B source is more useful as it's voltage can be determined by any function allowed in LtSpice where the H source is determined only by current. The non-linearity of the primary flux is determined by B1 and it's equation. Basically the voltage across B1 increases exponentially as the voltage drop across P2 increases. One may also notice the added bias to this calculation which I believe will be equivalent to PM bias on any portion of the core.

There is no core loss represented in this example at this point so there is no control over the hysteresis loop. This will be added later using a nonlinear resistance and then a B-H plot can be done and compared to the real transformer.

B sources are used to calculate the core flux and Pin.

pm


PM

How closely do you think this is starting to resemble EMJs partnered output coil setup?,as i am seeing some resemblance here.


Brad




So, I guess my point is, Who's Work is this really? Who is making progress on who's work, really? Please give me some names of others, before me, that made standard practice of using more than one Output Coil in a single System!!!

I bet you can't get more than one name out!!! It is now standard practice for everyone trying to make progress. So, am I doing the wrong thing? I most certainly do not think so!!!

I gave nothing of the sort!!! This is totally false: "resident metrologist fastidiously followed your instructions on your original Free energy claim" - I can't believe you of all people would try to imply this!!!

The truth is: Our "resident metrologist" offered not a single measurement at all on the work he did on Stanley Meyer VIC Circuit with my modified Output!!! EVER!!!

I said I had gotten a COP = 1.7 in my very early version of my PDF Document: Guidelines to Bucking Coils.

I gave no Circuit, ever! With this claim!!!

I gave you the Meyer Circuit I had tested, but never once claimed it was Over Unity!!! Ever!!! I claimed Meyer had great successes from it, his famous VIC Circuit, and that, I found it interesting!!! You people jumped into the Fire, a flighty leap, based on complete assumptions!!!

You see, the real problem is today, we have at least SIX other people, that have followed exactly the same, or similar to, ideas I have presented for many more than two years!!! So, my claims have been not only verified and independently replicated once, but SIX Times publically!!!

I did release a Circuit, not the fore mentioned Stanley Meyer VIC Circuit, way back, nearly 18 Months ago. This Circuit can achieve Over Unity with some work. The really funny thing is Chet, that not once, not twice, but FOUR of the SIX people I reference, uses this exact Circuit!!!

Of these two, I suspect one is the same, but I can not prove it, and the other is similar, by achieving the same end result.

Now isn't that just a real Coincidence!!!

For your convenience, I have posted this very same circuit again, see below:

I understand that many people get frustrated about me not posting the entire thing at once. I am sorry for your frustrations. But there are many very good reasons I am going about this the way I am.

Today, for you to question me, you question everyone that has shown their work!!! Do you question Graham Gunderson, a trained "metrologist"!!!

I have had some small very well-funded groups try to get me to "Give All" and then work for them so I would be "Quiet" – But you see Chet. It's about every single generation ahead of us... Not Us!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: I have, today, achieved, many, many more times than COP = 1.7 - So have others!!!

P.P.S: Brad is the only one here that did not need my help. He was there, on the verge of achieving Success before I came along. Brad is a Genius and you should listen and respect him and what he tells you!!!