Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[itsu]

l0stf0x,

bifilar coil, regular coil, pancake bifilar coil,  they are all coils, each with their own specifications, also depending on how they are connected (bifilar wise).
The result is more or less capacitance and/or inductance, but they all have them.

So it is very dependent on the purpose of your coil which one to use.

Concerning the primary coil, allthough it is wound as a bifilar coil, as i see it in this circuit, they are just 2 independent coils closely coupled together.

Anyway, i  build another coils system, now using a bigger ferrite rod (20cm / 2cm).
The secondaries are both 1625uH (100 turns each) and not covered by the primary (2x 50 turns bifilar) as it is wound on a free piece of the rod, see picture.

But this primary/secondary setup has severe impact on the efficiency as it dropped to 8%
Input is about 720mW, output 64mW.

So it seems we need a very tight coupling between primary and (one) secondary for increased efficiency.

Regards itsu

[EMJunkie]

l0stf0x,

bifilar coil, regular coil, pancake bifilar coil,  they are all coils, each with their own specifications, also depending on how they are connected (bifilar wise).
The result is more or less capacitance and/or inductance, but they all have them.

So it is very dependent on the purpose of your coil which one to use.

Concerning the primary coil, allthough it is wound as a bifilar coil, as i see it in this circuit, they are just 2 independent coils closely coupled together.

Anyway, i  build another coils system, now using a bigger ferrite rod (20cm / 2cm).
The secondaries are both 1625uH (100 turns each) and not covered by the primary (2x 50 turns bifilar) as it is wound on a free piece of the rod, see picture.

But this primary/secondary setup has severe impact on the efficiency as it dropped to 8%
Input is about 720mW, output 64mW.

So it seems we need a very tight coupling between primary and (one) secondary for increased efficiency.

Regards itsu

@All - This is an important lesson for all to learn.

Any Standard Transformer will be anywhere from: 80 - 95% Efficient. Coupling is important!

From Primary Coil, to Secondary Coil there should be at least an Efficiency of a Standard Transformer. Otherwise there is a LOT of LOST ENERGY to make up!

The Magnetising Force (MMF) which is the Current (I) through the Turns (N) should be approximately equal to each other at Time (t), from Primary to Secondary, which they are, in a properly loaded Transformer.

Asking basic questions, for example, how efficient is the Joule Thief Circuit?

Which is what this circuit is based from, yes some have said the Joule Thief is OU, many years ago we did measure OU, up to 20 times, but this never amounted to anything,  See: http://overunity.com/10773/physicsprof-steven-e-jones-circuit-shows-8x-overunity/msg289287/#msg289287.

Output: 845.8112mW / Input: 43.2972mW = Measured Gain of: 19.54

For those that don't follow the link, this was way back on: June 02, 2011 with PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones.

So, it seems that Itsu may need to work on the Coupling and get his Efficiency very much better than it currently is.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[wistiti]

Hey guys!
What you think of working together on it...?
I mean toward a same objective. Sharing and learning.
First rules: respect.

[EMJunkie]

Hey guys!
What you think of working together on it...?
I mean toward a same objective. Sharing and learning.
First rules: respect.

Hey Wistiti - Yep, I am in.

To be honest, I thought we already were?

I dont want the Blood Suckers to steel our work! I dont want to help others that are not willing to help themselves and others, and I dont want others to take the credit for our work!

I do get a bit carried away sometimes, I am a bit blunt maybe, but the points I make I mean to make respectfully!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[wistiti]

Hey Chris!
Yes i know you are in!
It goes much for other quiet Reader's/builders who may whant to jump in...
I think sharing on a common simple, low cost project must be interesting!
Anyone interested??