Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[Magluvin]

Well here is what I got on sim so far.  It is doing just as described.

The first stacked scope shots to the left are the input current and power at 20vac

The second scope shot is of the cap current, which also hangs around 20vac

The third is the current sense resistor at the top between the cap and the winding resistors

And the final stack is the primary and secondary current sens resistors.


I mean we can dispute that the sim is fraud, garbage or balony, but it does work as described. Just took a little effort.  Now I feel i can sit and make a real setup to do the same.


Here is the code for Falstad free Circuit Sim applet.

$ 1 1.16E-6 0.7087504708082256 38 5.0 43
T 640 272 816 416 0 0.01 3.0 -1.4062607712284625 0.4713399278764555 0.999
r 640 272 640 208 0 0.01
r 864 272 864 208 0 0.01
w 816 464 640 464 0
w 640 464 640 416 0
w 640 208 816 208 0
r 496 464 416 464 0 0.01
v 416 464 416 208 0 1 23700.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
S 496 208 448 208 0 1 false 0
w 416 208 448 192 0
w 816 464 864 464 0
w 864 272 816 272 0
w 576 208 496 208 0
w 640 464 576 464 0
w 576 464 496 464 0
c 576 208 576 464 0 9.910000000000001E-7 18.91475832637906
w 864 464 864 416 0
w 864 416 816 416 0
w 816 208 864 208 0
r 576 208 640 208 0 0.01
o 7 1 0 289 10.0 0.4 0 -1
o 7 1 1 291 5.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 15 1 0 33 10.0 25.6 1 -1
o 19 1 0 33 0.01953125 12.8 2 -1
o 1 1 0 33 0.0390625 12.8 3 -1
o 2 1 0 33 0.009765625 6.4 3 -1





Mags

[Magluvin]

I copied the code from the posted post and it differs for some reason when importing to the sim. It works perfect from the saved code on the desktop, but it leaves out the last scope shot of the sec stacked with the primary which shows the phase also when stacked. Messed with it for a bit here and all i can say is load the code and set up a scope shot of the far right sec resistor.  Have to be careful with these scope shots when working with this sim. It depends on which way you put a part on the screen as to how the shot looks. If you draw one resistor downward and draw the other upward, this will reverse the phase reading. Same with caps and such. But these are correct.

Mags

[tinman]

Well here is what I got on sim so far.  It is doing just as described.

The first stacked scope shots to the left are the input current and power at 20vac

The second scope shot is of the cap current, which also hangs around 20vac

The third is the current sense resistor at the top between the cap and the winding resistors

And the final stack is the primary and secondary current sens resistors.


I mean we can dispute that the sim is fraud, garbage or balony, but it does work as described. Just took a little effort.  Now I feel i can sit and make a real setup to do the same.


Here is the code for Falstad free Circuit Sim applet.

$ 1 1.16E-6 0.7087504708082256 38 5.0 43
T 640 272 816 416 0 0.01 3.0 -1.4062607712284625 0.4713399278764555 0.999
r 640 272 640 208 0 0.01
r 864 272 864 208 0 0.01
w 816 464 640 464 0
w 640 464 640 416 0
w 640 208 816 208 0
r 496 464 416 464 0 0.01
v 416 464 416 208 0 1 23700.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
S 496 208 448 208 0 1 false 0
w 416 208 448 192 0
w 816 464 864 464 0
w 864 272 816 272 0
w 576 208 496 208 0
w 640 464 576 464 0
w 576 464 496 464 0
c 576 208 576 464 0 9.910000000000001E-7 18.91475832637906
w 864 464 864 416 0
w 864 416 816 416 0
w 816 208 864 208 0
r 576 208 640 208 0 0.01
o 7 1 0 289 10.0 0.4 0 -1
o 7 1 1 291 5.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 15 1 0 33 10.0 25.6 1 -1
o 19 1 0 33 0.01953125 12.8 2 -1
o 1 1 0 33 0.0390625 12.8 3 -1
o 2 1 0 33 0.009765625 6.4 3 -1





Mags

So what is the power value being dissipated by the resistors and coils ?.


Brad

[Magluvin]

So what is the power value being dissipated by the resistors and coils ?.


Brad

Each scope shot can show the power if you rt click and choose that shots menu. I even turned off the voltage in the shots as it will only show the graphs and voltage value if both V and A are chosen. Here like in the diagram, we are looking at currents only and that is what I am showing. The transformer cannot be scoped. I havnt tried if the sim has probes or not. Ill check. But I believe the goal of that experiment was to see it in action and understand why it is happening. Im there. Whats next.
Once it gets into resonance the input becomes minimum and the oscillations carry on strong, just like an LC. But the interesting part is the transformer action to me. And I dont even know why Im interested yet. I had just never encountered that before.   

Its interesting and I want to see more. Im not looking for ou in this 1st experiment as Chris said it is not, yet. Whats next?

Mags

[Magluvin]

While screwing around with sim, I did some mods to the transformer. I did a 1-1 ratio and it just acts like an inductor where both windings are always in sync.

And I tried 1-10 ratio. Then they are 180 out but there isnt as much current induced out of the larger winding to feed the primary in opposition to the input and or varing cap voltage, even though the sec should be trying to produce even higher voltages than the input, the current ability diminishes.

So Im not certain, even though it is brought up in Chris vid as a posibility, if 1-3 is a magic number here.  But I do know that the lower number turn/lower inductance is the one that is inducing the larger number turn winding as the larger turn winding needs to build up more pressure with current capability than the input in order to help with sending current through the primary. Ive tried 1-2, 1-6, all of them up to 1-10. And the closer we get to around 3 the better the currents from the secondary as it should be producing pressures higher than the input and the closer the sec is to 1-1, the more current capability there will be in the sec.  But since the pressure is lower closer to 1-1, less current flows in the sec to supplement the primary with the input. At 1-1.1 ratio it acts very similar to just 1-1 just a bit higher freq than 1-1 and both are in phase as the eye can see but im sure there is a shift there though small.

So with this part of the 'getting to know partnered coils' id say to find if 1-3 ratio is best that I test other ratios around that to get the most current out of the sec vs the input/cap.  I was happy that the ratio setting could do 1-1.1 and such. The slider only does increments of 1 up to 10. So just enter the 1.1 or which ever and it works.
That sim is very handy for what it is. It has helped me a lot through the years. There are some things it lacks but it does great with this stuff for pretesting things.

Mags