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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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SolarLab

Quote from: forest on December 03, 2018, 03:06:52 PM
Forget all mathematics tricks. It won't work, unless you add external energy source to the equation - then the parametric circuit is self-explaining.

Not "mathematics tricks," it's the language of science and engineering discovery. Truncation of an input cycle can provide what would appear
to be an "external energy source" when derived internally. A resonant circuit driven with a narrow pulse is a good example; or a bell or a swing.

Anyway, just an attemp to provide some insight into why, what might have been perceived as measurement error, may have been, in fact, real.
We've all seen this on a number of ocassions but the "classics" steer us into believing it's simply a measurement anomoly. May not always be the case!

Tesla observed the action of abrupt truncation of a high voltage DC circuit and began a long journey to discover the "radiative anomoly" he
had experienced (not a subtle effect by any means, but an effect non-the-less). [truncation in this sense meaning - connect or disconnect]

Math can often times help out in isolating the real from the error. To lightly disregard it as "mathematics tricks" is fool-hardy.

tinman

Quote from: SolarLab on December 03, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Not "mathematics tricks," it's the language of science and engineering discovery. Truncation of an input cycle can provide what would appear
to be an "external energy source" when derived internally. A resonant circuit driven with a narrow pulse is a good example; or a bell or a swing.

Anyway, just an attemp to provide some insight into why, what might have been perceived as measurement error, may have been, in fact, real.
We've all seen this on a number of ocassions but the "classics" steer us into believing it's simply a measurement anomoly. May not always be the case!

Tesla observed the action of abrupt truncation of a high voltage DC circuit and began a long journey to discover the "radiative anomoly" he
had experienced (not a subtle effect by any means, but an effect non-the-less). [truncation in this sense meaning - connect or disconnect]

Math can often times help out in isolating the real from the error. To lightly disregard it as "mathematics tricks" is fool-hardy.

It is not the mathematics that are in error,it is those that carry out the math.

tinman

Quote from: SolarLab on December 03, 2018, 11:17:43 AM
F.Y.I.

As is shown below, it is mathematically and practically possible to gain energy in a simple coil (inductor) circuit. At first glance it might appear as measurement error but a more detailed study might provide further insight. Rather than re-furnish the particulars; an already well written presentation is referenced below. 

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/RLC_4?lang=en 

In general, it's worth to note that an increase can be found; formula 4.13 through 4.20. 

To quote, in part (from slide 4) at:     "Insights"

"In this work we proved that it is impossible to gain energy in parametric circuits of the first order in the full cycle (FCC) because the energy dissipated in the resistance is always equal to the energy expended by the power formula (4.9). But if the cycle is incomplete, the receiving gain becomes achievable task. If the reactive element comprises potential energy in the beginning of the cycle (PCCIE), the increase can be found by the formula (4.13). If in the reactive element of the energy remains at the end of the cycle, then the conditions for receiving allowances, we can find according to the formula (4.15), and the increment of efficiency by (4.20).

You need to understand that in this note a mathematically strictly proved potentially achievable values of the increment of energy, part of which, in the real reactance, can be spent inefficiently, for example, on heating. However, on the basis of evidence about the energy increment in the fractional cycles, one can obtain special cases for engineering calculations, which, in turn, will allow you to build a real device with high efficiency." 

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/pc2?lang=en

Energy parametric circuits of the second kind. Introduction
....... Return to our reality ........ 

Mathematics may just be our friend! 

FIN

My self ,and a group of very talented people spent 2 to 3 months working on such parametric circuits not to long ago.
We were getting results with COPs in excess of 200%.

What i will tell you is that current can follow paths not considered to exist. After months of testing,we found that a portion of the input power can travel through mid air. This is the portion of P/in they are missing-they being the people in your posted papers.

There are two self running devices that i know of,and have seen running in person--but you simply will not see such devices on public forums such as this one,nor on youtube.

These are not overunity devices,but more so devices with an !unknown! power source. One of them is quite cleverly done,and extreemly simple to build. The other is more complex,and would take a well skilled machinist to construct,and a half decent EE to build the required circuits.

The first machine make use of room temperature nitanol springs-nothing out of the ordinary there,but how he is able to create the required temperature difference without consuming any power is the clever bit.

The second,more complex machine is a bit more baffling.
I have !as yet! been unable to work out as to why it continuse to run once the power source is removed,while driving the equivalent to a 320 watt load. This 320 watts i calculated quickly by how much water was raised a set hight in a given amount of time--so it is a !round about! calculation.

But as i said,these are the machines you will not find here on public forums.


Brad

lancaIV

Quote from: SolarLab on December 03, 2018, 11:17:43 AM
F.Y.I.

As is shown below, it is mathematically and practically possible to gain energy in a simple coil (inductor) circuit. At first glance it might appear as measurement error but a more detailed study might provide further insight. Rather than re-furnish the particulars; an already well written presentation is referenced below. 

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/RLC_4?lang=en 

In general, it's worth to note that an increase can be found; formula 4.13 through 4.20. 

To quote, in part (from slide 4) at:     "Insights"

"In this work we proved that it is impossible to gain energy in parametric circuits of the first order in the full cycle (FCC) because the energy dissipated in the resistance is always equal to the energy expended by the power formula (4.9). But if the cycle is incomplete, the receiving gain becomes achievable task. If the reactive element comprises potential energy in the beginning of the cycle (PCCIE), the increase can be found by the formula (4.13). If in the reactive element of the energy remains at the end of the cycle, then the conditions for receiving allowances, we can find according to the formula (4.15), and the increment of efficiency by (4.20).

You need to understand that in this note a mathematically strictly proved potentially achievable values of the increment of energy, part of which, in the real reactance, can be spent inefficiently, for example, on heating. However, on the basis of evidence about the energy increment in the fractional cycles, one can obtain special cases for engineering calculations, which, in turn, will allow you to build a real device with high efficiency." 

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/pc2?lang=en

Energy parametric circuits of the second kind. Introduction
....... Return to our reality ........ 

Mathematics may just be our friend! 

FIN
It seems that You are writing about rectenna technique  handling with emissor and receptor."Parametric circuits": Ferdinand Braun and his students Mandelstam and Papalexi and their "parametric generator", today to find their trials in Nantenna circuits(MEMS-architecture).The best solution to use "parametric circuits", from my own view, is the reversible thermionic cell by Dr. Joseph Yater.Myriads of circuits per sqcm.https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#

ramset

would like to see that water gizzmo doing work with no input...300 Watts is almost 1/2 HP //
is the thing huge ?

remember your Star in a jar work ? http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3672.msg70419;topicseen#msg70419

trying to get Dr.Jones to OK a simple Celani protocol [not star in a jar] so more open source Labs can join in.////  //  //lots of things on the table ATM in LENR or ?? Anomalous  heat experiments// //

note to member Solar Lab//
some BUILDERS here are wanting more answers about Gorchilin's claims ?IMO a separate topic if you do experiments would be well received !
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