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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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lancaIV

F=BIL is one kind as formula for the Lorentz force on  current-carrying coil

But partnered output coils are ≥1 = min 2
So we have to calculate the Lorentz force with the Biot-Savart law conditioning :

this in combination is called "Ampere force law",strictly to differ from "Ampere law"
What here is called partnered output coils,by Victor Arestov " combined double winding" are in use as same as Dr.Pavel Imris his used "capacitive band/foils windings" :

applied "Ampere force law" converter


To know this is one side from the medail,to get far from prototypes development   Alpha-stage to relyable production with compareable costs/KWh experience another !
2025 global " open source" mass production will be more realistic !
The first granted prototype was the Jorge Ferreira cap-windings motor in the portuguese INPI patent office 2009 !
No hurry !Solar cells are now also more than 100 years known and in less than 1% global  private household their use

Drak

Thanks for the information Chris, I've been extremely busy with life things, will try out some things this week. I tried to build it based on what you recommended, 180 turn per pair 20 gauge, 22 turns  14 gauge input. COP is less then 1. Still have a lot to try. It has been so long since I messed with electronics I forgot how to do half of everything. I took 6 years off from experimenting so I could buy a fixer up house, I finally got to the point where I could pay it off and this stupid virus hit, just my luck. Will try to post more later.

EMJunkie

Quote from: lancaIV on April 07, 2020, 10:32:02 PM
F=BIL is one kind as formula for the Lorentz force on  current-carrying coil

But partnered output coils are ≥1 = min 2
So we have to calculate the Lorentz force with the Biot-Savart law conditioning :

this in combination is called "Ampere force law",strictly to differ from "Ampere law"


Thanks for sharing lancaIV!

I have tried for a long time, I cant calculate the proportionality's, I can get close by guessing some things, but always there is some fiddling.

Best wishes,
   Chris Sykes

EMJunkie

Quote from: Drak on April 07, 2020, 10:39:22 PM
Thanks for the information Chris, I've been extremely busy with life things, will try out some things this week. I tried to build it based on what you recommended, 180 turn per pair 20 gauge, 22 turns  14 gauge input. COP is less then 1. Still have a lot to try. It has been so long since I messed with electronics I forgot how to do half of everything. I took 6 years off from experimenting so I could buy a fixer up house, I finally got to the point where I could pay it off and this stupid virus hit, just my luck. Will try to post more later.


Hey Drak,

Apologies, in the Images, the wire looked much smaller than 20 Gauge.

Just when you get time, no stress.

What was your COP?

The list I gave you is the best place to start for the moment. With anything, things evolve, it takes time to learn and understand, as we gain a greater understanding we can make further improvements.

Best wishes,
   Chris Sykes

EMJunkie



I should explain further;

The Rate at which the Partnered Output Coils Interact Together is important!

Of course this Interaction, is the magnetic Fields Slapping Together very hard, or very soft, a lazy action. If the Action is lazy, then little Voltage and little Current will be available. This action can be visualised by the Actions in this Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE9mwZQucIw


Two Waves, each having Velocity, each traveling in opposite directions, meeting at a point, and the Velocity of the Waves determines the Voltage "Generated".  ;)

This action, the Slapping together of the Waves, have a Resonant Frequency, we can reach maximum amplitude for a minimum Input, very low Internal Impedance. This is what I call the Reduced Impedance Effect.

The Interaction between these fields are what Sends Power back to your Input Power Source. The greater this Interaction, the greater the Power sent back! Of course this is all Polarity Specific! So you have to learn how to get all this right. The best way to achieve this, is, build the Transformer first, Secondary Coil, Turns X, then Input over the top, as you have done. Use the Right Hand Grip Rule to configure Input Current and Output Current, Polarity. Once this is done, Benchmark, see if you have a fairly efficient Transformer! If not - Find out why!

Once your Transformer is fairly efficient, then Add your Tertiary Coil. Make sure the polarity is Opposing your Secondary in the same way we made the Secondary Oppose the Primary. Many paths led to Rome! Lots of ways work, I have tried to give you the easiest. Once this is working, go through my list, making sure you makes steps forward all the time, documenting the circuits you have tried and what the results were.

My List again:

Quote from: EMJunkie on April 06, 2020, 08:38:00 PM

Several things:

   1: Input Coil Impedance is Important. Few Turns of Thick Wire Gauge, I had 22 Turns 1.6 mm.
   2: Increase your Input Voltage, shorten up your Duty Cycle.
   3: Gap the Core. Some Cores are Slugs, a gap is sometimes needed.
   4: Partnered Output Coil Impedance may be too high - Too many turns of too thin Wire Gauge. Increase the Wire Gauge on the POC.
   5: Shorten up all leads / Wires.
   6: Check you have Current being returned to the Power Supply. If not, then you need to focus on this part. There may be a Polarity problem, however your waveform is good!
   7: The Conduction between the Coils, Delaying the Conduction slightly can increase your Voltage: Current I = Voltage V / Resistance R, so look at increasing your Output Voltage. The Coils Slapping together is Important, see below image.

Lots of other little things can improve the Machine. Above are the main ones for the moment. Basic Generator Principles are mostly accurate for these machines, Wire Gauge, Cross Sectional Ares and so on!



The quote: "Little Steps for Little Feet" - Sir Richard Feynman. Floyd Sweets First VTA was reported to be 6 Watts, his last VTA, Generation Six, was over 5000 Watts. So keep expectations real! Don't let your expectations get out of the frame of reality. Aim for a few Watts initially. This is not a hard goal to achieve.

If you want to invest in a very handy little Measurement Block - Kit, these are very useful! Monitoring Current is extremely useful! Image below:

Best wishes,
   Chris Sykes