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Indegogo campaign to replicate G. Morin HighPower PolePig Transformer Apparatus

Started by mscoffman, February 18, 2015, 02:45:14 PM

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ramset

I left it


here is what I tried to post above,you fellows ask me why my sentences here are so Chopped up[see what I see above...then I have to take twenty minutes to straighten it out...
Nonsense...
anyhow






memoryman
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There has never been a transformer with >100% efficiency.
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Once again that is all perspective...I can say all transformers are 100% efficient
if my goal is to make heat .   [or I could just use an appropriate  resistor ]

MarKSCoffman

I have sent You  a PM


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Chet
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Thanks Grandma

TinselKoala

It's easy to reproduce errors. Just how do you think Morin is defining "efficiency"? Hey, look, I have a device sitting on my desk right now that takes in 24 volts from two small batteries, and puts out 30,000 volts and can easily set stuff on fire. What's my efficiency? Using Morin's measurement methods and definitions, I mean.




MarkE

Quote from: ramset on February 20, 2015, 12:10:38 PM
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If you would like to get pedantic then  Memoryman's statement can be reworded as:  "All transformers deliver less electrical energy to the sum of all of their loads combined than electrical energy applied to their input(s)."

TinselKoala

Quote from: mscoffman on February 19, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
@TK,

   One reason for the replication attempt is I feel that Gerard did not give any adequate data about the
input vs output energies involved. I mean at least he could have let his hand slip and placed his
meter around one the output leads to show transformer output current. This rather than placing
his meter around a potentially destructive static VHV source. Also those load heaters have two sections
and it would be quite possible to have them heat like they are fully on while they are not. Also the motor
is stupid because a mechanically unloaded motor has an arbitrary low power drain, not represented by it
nameplate numbers and his motor was unloaded therefore the motor should not have been present. So his
experimental load setup showed lack of insight and concommitmented data taking would have been probably been
totally questionable anyways. There would have to have been a rather drastic modification to the generator
to show actual accurate electrical drive numbers.

So would I have funded G. Morin in any additional concerns about this or derivative questions? No.
Whether his insight enables what is desired or whether it was BS targeting vulnerable people
is what we also hope to determine. Believe me I feel he is *not alone*, if it is the latter.

In a fairly standard display these people like G. Morin seem to be using idiosyncrasies to promote personal
pet theories....But perhaps these idiosyncrasies were based in experimental observations by multiple
people and perhaps these will be of some value to them if measured properly. It's mighty
strange that these observation were only detected when one type of historical generator was used.

Perhaps there is "More than one way to do it." anyway.

As to the question of my funding for the project, I embarrassingly wish to report that the weather we have been
having in the US northeast has been interfering with my attempts to send it in.  It is currently 19F. here at 4:55PM.
BTW, It's also surprising at how many new insights come about when a project is attempted, successfully or not.

:S:MarkSCoffman

I can agree with all, or most all, of that. And you know that I myself have taken the same course many times, that is, I
"replicate" questionable devices myself so that I can test them, reproduce the questionable measurements or effects myself,
and proceed to analyze and track down the errors and do it properly so as to assign really valid interpretations of the data.
The difference here is one of scale and cost. I seriously think that Morin's experiments, knowledge and claims are so flawed
as to be not worth the effort or the large cost involved to "replicate" his errors. They are actually pretty transparent if
one just watches his videos and listens to his "explanations" which reveal that he doesn't understand what he's doing
from either a theoretical or practical standpoint, nor does he understand the proper use and proper choice of test
equipment. So I'd like to see, in this case especially, the claimant himself do the "cleanup" and provide some proper
data collected and reported properly. Once that is done (don't hold your breath waiting) _then_ it might be worthwhile
to conduct a full-scale "replication" including purchasing some polepigs, etc. You can always use them for a mega-Tesla Coil
power supply after finding that Morin's claims are specious.