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Overunity Machines Forum



Perpetual diamagnetic liquid

Started by Newton II, February 21, 2015, 09:16:24 AM

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Low-Q

Quote from: profitis on February 22, 2015, 06:30:33 AM
Vidar:'I bet a million dollars it won't work  ;) '

Be careful with your money.this battery will work.o2 is magnetic.I've tested it
That battery will not generate electricity forever. I bet a million dollar for you too  ;)
H2O is somewhat diamagnetic. Maybe O2 is magnetic, but that doesn't mean it can provide electricity forever using a magnet.
Do you know what happens to iron in the presence of pure oxygen? It "burns" into rust in relatively short time.


EDIT: And that potassium hydroxide bath you have, will not release ions forever....unless you refuel, and change the iron sponges on a regular basis.


Vidar

profitis

Vidar:'That battery will not generate electricity forever. I bet a million dollar for you too  ;)'

Me:I bet you a million it will work forever and a day ;). Iron is totaly passivated in alkali solution(this is why they make NiMh batteries in a steel case).Fe2O3 surface is a wellknown oxygen evolution and reduction catalyst.fuel cell cathodes have been tested using this magnetic principal to enhance o2 uptake and hence voltage and current densities.google it

profitis

In the perpetual battery: cathode: o + h20 + 2e-> 2oh- anode: 2oh-> o + h2o + 2e-. Voltage: e=RT/nF ln c.O2(a)/c.O2(b) ...c is for oxygen concentration.you may use nickel sponge inplace of iron sponge,if you want

Newton II

Quote from: Low-Q on February 22, 2015, 12:25:28 PM

Magnetism is a force
Gravity is a force

None of those are containing energy.

Energy is required to do work.


Force cannot appear by itself.   Energy is required to generate force also.   What is supplying energy to generate force in magnetic and gravitational fields?


Quote from: Low-Q on February 22, 2015, 12:25:28 PM

BTW: I can build it. I have hose, water and a bunch of neodym magnets. I will prove to you it won't work.
I will post a video on youtube.


Wish you good luck!   But can I believe you?   If it works,  you will not post the video because you will loose million dollars!!!  Somebody must be a fool to hammer crow bar on his own ....   :) :) :) 


Low-Q

Quote from: Newton II on February 22, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
Force cannot appear by itself.   Energy is required to generate force also.   What is supplying energy to generate force in magnetic and gravitational fields?


Wish you good luck!   But can I believe you?   If it works,  you will not post the video because you will loose million dollars!!!  Somebody must be a fool to hammer crow bar on his own ....   :) :) :)
Energy is required to generate acceleration.


EDIT: Force don't need energy. Force can increase and decrease without any change in energy.
You can squeeze your hands together with great force, or little force, but the energy between your hands is zero. The only energy there is is energy loss in your body.


You can put a magnet on a rotor, and spin it close to a heavy iron piece. Say the magnet cannot lift the iron from ground for each pass, the iron piece will act less force to the ground in the moment where the magnet is passing, but no energy is spent or lost.


Only if the magnet is strong enough to lift the iron piece, the spinning magnet will loose some konetic energy each time the iron piece is lifted, and finally stop.
The lost kinetic energy is causd by the iron piece which is accelerating towards the magnet.


The same, or similar, thing wil happen to the "U". As long the magnet appearently can force the liquid to flow, the liquid will stop flowing already before it has started. So absolutely nothing will happen.


Vidar