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-----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.

Started by FatBird, March 06, 2015, 11:22:45 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: tinman on March 07, 2015, 06:39:40 PM
Quote chet- Water as fuel.....Water as Fuel ..
has a nice ring to it.Now would be a good time to reply with caution Mark.
Except that water is the ash of the oxidation-reduction reaction between H2 and O2.  The chemical energy is gone, kaput, used up, gone to parrot heaven.
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"Or-My free time is very limited,and i will show my results as soon as i can?.
Or as in the common game of charlatans and swindlers:  "We are really close.  Your dollars today will be rewarded later.  Trust me as I have trusted you with my "secrets"."
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Definitions of fuel.
1.
Combustible matter used to maintain fire, as coal, wood, oil, or gas, in order to create heat or power
2.
something that gives nourishment

3.
An energy source for engines, power plants, or reactors:

4.
something that sustains or encourages; stimulant:
Water does not fit any of those definitions.   Even Greg Potter acknowledges that water does not supply energy in his contraption:
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QuoteAs you know, it is impossible to create energy out of 4 gallons of water.

FatBird

@ Ramset

Your rebuttal Posts are VERY WELL ARTICULATED, & I totally agree.

In fact, I think you are speaking for 95% of the people here that want to see "egotistical Nobody's"
BANNED so they stop BAD MOUTHING & SLANDERING other inventors & their inventions.

In fact, if I were the Administrator here, I would BAN THEM in a New York minute!
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MarkE

Quote from: FatBird on March 07, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
@ Ramset

Your rebuttal Posts are VERY WELL ARTICULATED, & I totally agree.

In fact, I think you are speaking for 95% of the people here that want to see
the truth & NOT BAD MOUTH & SLANDER other inventors, ideas & their inventions.
                                                                                                                         .
Slander requires that one make false defamatory claims.  You cannot establish falsity.  Ergo:  You cannot establish slander.  Greg Potter put a couple of motors in a box with a water tank and more importantly a couple of lead acid batteries powering off the shelf DC - AC inverters.  He now admits the obvious:  water does not and cannot power his "water powered generators".  Ergo his prior claims to "water powered generators" are false.


tinman

Quote from: MarkE on March 07, 2015, 06:46:12 PM
Except that water is the ash of the oxidation-reduction reaction between H2 and O2.  The chemical energy is gone, kaput, used up, gone to parrot heaven.Or as in the common game of charlatans and swindlers:  "We are really close.  Your dollars today will be rewarded later.  Trust me as I have trusted you with my "secrets"."Water does not fit any of those definitions.   Even Greg Potter acknowledges that water does not supply energy in his contraption:
Marke
As most others are,you to are stuck in the simpelton meanings of fuel.

Another def of fuel-->A substance that produces useful energy when it undergoes a chemical or nuclear reaction.

To say that water is an ash is incorrect,as an ash is a depleted fuel source,where water is a fuel in a stable state-->and is the only fuel that can be recycled over and over to be used again. The proof that water(as stated by clear definition)produces useful energy is clearly seen in any ICE when a water injection system is added.

Pirate88179

Quote from: tinman on March 07, 2015, 07:02:55 PM
Marke
As most others are,you to are stuck in the simpelton meanings of fuel.

Another def of fuel-->A substance that produces useful energy when it undergoes a chemical or nuclear reaction.

To say that water is an ash is incorrect,as an ash is a depleted fuel source,where water is a fuel in a stable state-->and is the only fuel that can be recycled over and over to be used again. The proof that water(as stated by clear definition)produces useful energy is clearly seen in any ICE when a water injection system is added.

Tinman:

Please correct me if I am wrong but water injection on an ICE is used mainly to effectively increase the octane of the fuel (raising its flash point) to stop valve knocking at a given compression ratio and timing.  The water is not being split, it just cools the combustion chamber enough to raise the flash point.  Maybe some of it is turned into steam?  I am not sure about that but I do not think the water itself is being burned in this case.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen