Is Newton's Law At Risk?

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Webby,


If there was less tension on the rope, then this would equate to less kinetic friction and resistance in the system,  thus the current draw would decrease.  The resistance in the system has nothing to do with there being a counter torque from the flywheel to the motor.


You can hold the flywheel stationary and the unbalanced purple gears will still rotate and the frame will still oscillate without much influence on the motor.  Like I said before, you can rotate only the flywheel, and the unbalanced purple gears would not rotate.


Gravock

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What makes the gear frame move backwards?  remember that question??

solve for it and YOU will solve the riddle of the feedback system.

The unbalanced rotating gears causes the gear frame to move forward and backwards.  Please explain how rotating the flywheel only, will cause the unbalanced gears to rotate in order for their to be a counter torque on the motor itself? 


When the motor is driving the unbalanced gears, and the gear frame itself is held stationary, then the  gears themselves will continue to rotate at relatively the same rate after taking into account there is less kinetic friction because the rope wouldn't be sliding on the one way bearings.


Tusk as already shown through empirical evidence that an object that has a force applied at the center of its mass will travel the same linear distance as an object that has a force applied at the perimeter of the center of mass, which results in both a linear and rotational acceleration.  The rotational acceleration is free, and MIT has published a document that supports this also.


Gravock

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Webby,

I'm currently in the process of motorizing a bicycle.  This has a much higher priority for me at the moment.  My car was totalled out and I need transportation.  You lose alot of freedom without a vehicle.  So yes, I am currently building something.  Contrary to what you may believe, I have built alot of devices and done a lot of experimenting.  Oh, and I have plans to use this motor as a small generator also.

Gravock

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MIT also showed that the total momentum is the same whether or not a spin is induced.

Webby,

The conservation of momentum applies only to a system and not to individual bodies.  In addition to this, if the momentum is conserved, then the conservation of energy can be violated.  If the conservation of energy holds, then the conservation of momentum can be violated.  It's known by top physicists that Newton's zeroth law is invalid.

A good example in how COM holds while COE is violated can be seen in transferring the momentum of a heavier object to a lighter object, according to KE = 0.5 * mv².

A 5 kg mass moving 1 m/s has 5 units of momentum and has a kinetic energy of 2.5J.  A 1 kg mass moving 5 m/s has 5 units of momentum and has a kinetic energy of 12.5J

12.5J > 2.5J !!!  <------ Conservation of energy is violated while the 5 units of momentum is conserved!

Gravock

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I tell you what,, you choose to see it your way and I will choose my way,, no problem.

Good luck on that conversion,,

Are you going to use the gas engine in the picture?

Now days you can buy an actual kit to do that job,, when I was really young we did the whole thing by ourselves,,

A washing machine motor and a wagon with batteries,, not a good idea

Yes, the gas engine in the picture is what I'll be using.  I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  However, I would like to make one further comment and would like to hear your opinion on it.  I would also like to say I enjoy debating with you.

Let's say the unbalanced gears have a rotational momentum (angular momentum) of 5 units, the oscillating gear frame has a momentum of 5 units, for a total of 10 units of momentum.  If we then put a load on the gear frame where it's momentum decreases to 3 units of momentum, then the unbalanced gears will increase from 5 units of momentum to 7 units of rotational momentum in order for the 10 units of momentum to be conserved in the system.

As we can see, any feedback from the flywheel to the gear frame which decreases the oscillations, will then increase the rotational speed of the unbalanced gears in order for the momentum to be conserved in the system.  This increase in the speed of rotation of the unbalanced gears will then cause the gear frame to increase in oscillations, which will then cause a decrease in the rotational speed of the unbalanced gears in order for the momentum to be conserved in the system.  So, if there is a feedback, then this feedback is then deflected back to it's source in the opposite direction, which has the effect of no net counter torque.  In other words, Newton's third law is cancelled.

Gravock