Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.

[MarkE]

Bouyancy device is not the free energy device here! but the compressor is; combined with stirling pump after. As you know compressed air get wormer; this is the heat source of the stirling pump; box like device near the comp. this is why it can RUN.
about stirling pump: http://calypso53.com/stirling/Stirling_Pump.jpg


From here: http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=427.0

Rosch claim that they run all the equipment in a closed loop with energy left over.  Each of the processes that they claim to use or that others have postulated are all lossy.  So aside from the fact that any postulation of an energy source outside buoyancy would mean that Rosch are telling false storis, no such outside source can generate energy for free. Getting power by secretly pluggin an extension cord into the neighbor's outlet does not make free energy.

A good test to indicate the actual source of Rosch's power would be to monitor the phase and frequency of their machine's alleged output with an oscilloscope synchronized to the utility line, and then to periodically step the load on Rosch's machine up and down.  If the output is locked to the utility then Rosch should explain why.  If the output does not wander from the utility when a step load is added or removed then the utility is almost certainly the actual power source.  This does not prevent a clever fake from building equipment that shifts from the utility even though it is powered by the utility.  Such games require sophistication and enough energy storage to manage the shift.

[thngr]

Rosch claim that they run all the equipment in a closed loop with energy left over.  Each of the processes that they claim to use or that others have postulated are all lossy.  So aside from the fact that any postulation of an energy source outside buoyancy would mean that Rosch are telling false storis, no such outside source can generate energy for free. Getting power by secretly pluggin an extension cord into the neighbor's outlet does not make free energy.

A good test to indicate the actual source of Rosch's power would be to monitor the phase and frequency of their machine's alleged output with an oscilloscope synchronized to the utility line, and then to periodically step the load on Rosch's machine up and down.  If the output is locked to the utility then Rosch should explain why.  If the output does not wander from the utility when a step load is added or removed then the utility is almost certainly the actual power source.  This does not prevent a clever fake from building equipment that shifts from the utility even though it is powered by the utility.  Such games require sophistication and enough energy storage to manage the shift.

I have done the math dude! I am REAL believer of free Energy. It's a new kind of compressor and it's above %100!

[LibreEnergia]

I have done the math dude! I am REAL believer of free Energy. It's a new kind of compressor and it's above %100!

So lets see the maths that shows that the device pictured is not powered by a. Your hand or b. the candle..

No such maths exists. If you believe you have some you are simply mistaken.

[TinselKoala]

Other people have also done the math, dude... and they have shown their work so that it can be reviewed and critiqued. Those people who have done the math _correctly_ have determined that there is no possible way that the Rosch device could produce more than a few hundred watts, and will always require more than that actually to keep turning.

Why does an "overunity" Stirling Pump need:
1. A heat source
2. A manual operating handle
and does _not_ need:
A brake or limiter to keep it from overspeeding to destruction?

I know why... and so do you.

[Red_Sunset]

Other people have also done the math, dude... and they have shown their work so that it can be reviewed and critiqued. Those people who have done the math _correctly_ have determined that there is no possible way that the Rosch device could produce more than a few hundred watts, and will always require more than that actually to keep turning.

Why does an "overunity" Stirling Pump need:
1. A heat source
2. A manual operating handle
and does _not_ need:
A brake or limiter to keep it from overspeeding to destruction?

I know why... and so do you. 

Just an observation, followed by advice
Have you ever questioned why you receive this attitude in this forum ?  These extreme reactions and insults ?
It is not that what you say is incorrect, oh no,   it has way more to do with how you say it !!

I agree that many OU enthusiasts are quickly jumping to optimistic but incorrect conclusions.  What starts the conflict is that you (the 3 musketeers, TK, MH, MarkE......) jump even faster to the opposite side with final conclusions that are 5 steps ahead. 
Because they are 5 steps ahead, they are very negative and discouraging, notwithstanding that your conclusion might be correct.  This behaviour is destructive rather than supportive, constructive or guiding/sharing. 
Naturally this type of response will create emotions of a negative kind.

Think about this for a moment

In the last preceding 3 mails (by MarkE, EnergyLibre, TK) is there any inquiry of interest on how thngr thinks his idea can possibly be realized with the attributes shown in his picture, that depict a pretty regular sterling engine?

I do realize that "thngr" doesn't present anything of substance yet and that you guys have been through the mill of many OU projects that showed promise in their time but led to nothing except to confirm that the late 1800 scientist were right.

Notwithstanding the hope of finding a possible anomaly towards energy of a currently unknown source is still in you. The reason you float around on this website, where you can enjoy some satisfaction of the power of you knowledge and experience.
This knowledge made you skeptical and arrogant when put OU-post to OU-post.  You are technically correct in most of your statements but you are not helpfull or aiding the exchange of idea's.   I agree that many idea's, maybe look to one as gold is trash to experienced eyes, especially when you have seen it before and have been there. 
Although showing some genuine interest, engaging into discussion of interest goes a long way to possibly making / uplifting a weak idea to a brilliant idea.

You can not 'tango' on your own, you need two

My 2 pennies worth,  Red_Sunset