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How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW

Started by hartiberlin, May 05, 2015, 10:41:49 PM

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minnie




  Supposed to work by displacement of water, can't see pressure in float
would have any relevance.
    I just thought in the movable unit the floats could have contained
batteries. Just a fun idea!
            John.

seychelles

well mimi i know that this invention work. because this same principle that the ship
salvage operator retrieve tons of ships from the bottom of the ocean. yes they use
compress air to fill up big sacks attach to cables to the hull of the ship and wamo
and the ship is floating again..and this is just repeating over and over again..and
one thing the do not mention they can increase the efficiency further by heating the
compress air before it enters the chambers.. how using solar heater..this will be great in
the tropics..

minnie




   Oh there's no doubt it'll work, the problems with trying to recover anything
are horrendous.
     Have a read through "mathematical analysis of an ideal ZED" started by
Mondrasek and you will discover quite a bit about trying to recover potential
from a basically similar procedure.
            John.

lumen

Quote from: seychelles on July 30, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
well mimi i know that this invention work. because this same principle that the ship
salvage operator retrieve tons of ships from the bottom of the ocean. yes they use
compress air to fill up big sacks attach to cables to the hull of the ship and wamo
and the ship is floating again..and this is just repeating over and over again..and
one thing the do not mention they can increase the efficiency further by heating the
compress air before it enters the chambers.. how using solar heater..this will be great in
the tropics..

You view is overly simplistic, recovery teams do not care how much energy is put into the float and heating the air before pumping into the float is counter productive as the air would cool from the water and lose pressure.

With energy production, sealing the float and extracting useable pressure for the next float is the only way the device could be working unless you want to keep adding energy to it to make it run.
An empty float will be just as buoyant as one with pressure and even more so as one with high pressure.
Plus, you get maximum buoyancy from the start and don't waste energy waiting for the air to expand as the float rises.
Plus, extracting the pressure from the float into a reserve tank with lower pressure requires little energy.

seychelles

it does not matter this idea is archaic, with the exponential development
of new efficient technology one who invest in such a system will be left with
a white elephant.. see solar cells was invented just before the apollo mission
to the moon..but the generator we still use which is 100% inefficient
was invented by nikolas tesla. because it is still under the spell of lenze  law, friction, heat wastage
or to every action there is an opposite reaction. so for every one kw generated one needs to put 3kw..
the new idea will be that we learn to counter act the lenze and
movement inefficiencies.