Permanent magnet motor

[sm0ky2]

Howard Johnson used composite magnets, and wrote extensively on the subject.

when used properly, one can gain complete control of how, and where the magnetic field bends, expands, contracts.
advanced techniques can build up "magnetic pressure", causing it to release at a certain point

[ayeaye]

when used properly, one can gain complete control of how, and where the magnetic field bends, expands, contracts.

Yes whatever but, i think overunity still comes from movement by field lines. And the problem is, there is overunity, but this overunity is too small on permanent magnets.

Isn't making things with permanent magnets like, go fishing, and then go to fish in a place where you can get only tiny fish, while there are places where you can catch fish several feet long? More difficult to catch these bigger fishes, sure, you certainly need some better equipment. But it's worth of that.

What i mean is that's the same, the overunity is caused by the same things. But like in induction there is likely more of it, and things can be controlled more. Permanent magnets are like inconvenient packages, where good and bad are always packed together. Something like a pizza, but there is very little meat in it. You can eat more of that pizza, but you cannot eat too much. So no matter what, you cannot get enough what you need from that pizza.

I think some here don't like me now, thinking i'm a pessimist. They don't see that i'm an optimist, willing to do whatever it takes to get overunity. Even with permanent magnets. But, all there is, is that i think that it's better to use one's efforts in a more efficient way, not to stick to the solutions which very unlikely give much positive.

Oh and, someone said, magnetic gun. Magnetic gun is moving by field lines. Maybe it works better though with a radially magnetized moving magnet, or such. And again, try to achive a continuous rotation with that, may well not be possible.

[SoManyWires]

Yes whatever but, i think overunity still comes from movement by field lines. And the problem is, there is overunity, but this overunity is too small on permanent magnets.

Isn't making things with permanent magnets like, go fishing, and then go to fish in a place where you can get only tiny fish, while there are places where you can catch fish several feet long? More difficult to catch these bigger fishes, sure, you certainly need some better equipment. But it's worth of that.

What i mean is that's the same, the overunity is caused by the same things. But like in induction there is likely more of it, and things can be controlled more. Permanent magnets are like inconvenient packages, where good and bad are always packed together. Something like a pizza, but there is very little meat in it. You can eat more of that pizza, but you cannot eat too much. So no matter what, you cannot get enough what you need from that pizza.

I think some here don't like me now, thinking i'm a pessimist. They don't see that i'm an optimist, willing to do whatever it takes to get overunity. Even with permanent magnets. But, all there is, is that i think that it's better to use one's efforts in a more efficient way, not to stick to the solutions which very unlikely give much positive.

Oh and, someone said, magnetic gun. Magnetic gun is moving by field lines. Maybe it works better though with a radially magnetized moving magnet, or such. And again, try to achive a continuous rotation with that, may well not be possible.

na, its easy to appreciate different perspectives.
the most logical perspectives based on your evaluations made such as your experiments with magnets do actually help.

can't hate over that.

you've actually made efforts at attempting to understand permanent magnet principles, and you did so constructing testing apparatus.
not many people have even gone that far. and even though the results were not what was hoped for with the experiments, never the less
you did try. that is still worthy of a salute.

and you even still think a continuous rotation is not yet proven entirely possible.
its good you too have allowed this consideration should anyone get to making that happen eventually.

and without the ad nausium of scams that do nothing to help further researchers to work in a less polluted environment,
as they basically aim fill their wallets with dirty money as they rob decent people and aim to do so with little conscience.

i too can see the logic in your evaluation and respect your choices in venturing less further in such direction.
there are lots of already working and useful products available to people that have been proven to work,
and it can be a good thing to try and find improvements with those if so inspired, it might be something like a better solar tracking design, power storage, hydrogen, others, even with things such as the medical field or even helping the lives of patients to become a little less challenging, or a better pizza, if that is possible by finding ways to get it to be a more balanced diet using additives without making it more expensive. and maybe 3d printable.
rather than focusing on trying to rewrite any established physics laws, honestly.
time management is something you understand well.

all the best

[ayeaye]

Thank you

Rewriting the laws of physics, i don't know, not inevitably necessary. Like the first law of thermodynamics says nothing about any energy at 0 degrees kelvin.

[SoManyWires]

Thank you

Rewriting the laws of physics, i don't know, not inevitably necessary. Like the first law of thermodynamics says nothing about any energy at 0 degrees kelvin.

your welcome chief.
i should probably be posting this somewhere else instead on this site, though you might find this interesting to know about atoms being able to be transferred from colder temps than 0 degrees kelvin, to degrees of warmer temps still colder than kelvin. it did involve some useful magnetic fields in the projects construction, though it is not a permanent magnet motor.
also in their 2013 study they had to utilize a reasonable amount of energy to create the effect, and it was not creating excess energy.
they do suggest supercooling could eventually result in more efficient looping energy transfer.




"We have created the first negative absolute temperature state for moving particles," said researcher Simon Braun at the University of Munich in Germany.

New kinds of engines

Negative temperatures could be used to create heat engines — engines that convert heat energy to mechanical work, such as combustion engines — that are more than 100-percent efficient, something seemingly impossible. Such engines would essentially not only absorb energy from hotter substances, but also colder ones. As such, the work the engine performed could be larger than the energy taken from the hotter substance alone.

Negative temperatures might also help shed light on one of the greatest mysteries in science. Scientists had expected the gravitational pull of matter to slow down the universe's expansion after the Big Bang, eventually bringing it to a dead stop or even reversing it for a "Big Crunch." However, the universe's expansion is apparently speeding up, accelerated growth that cosmologists suggest may be due to dark energy, an as-yet-unknown substance that could make up more than 70 percent of the cosmos.

full article here and links to further info if interested
http://www.livescience.com/25959-atoms-colder-than-absolute-zero.html