Confessions of khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Oklahoma City, PanAm 800 and American 587

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Here are three alternative explanations for three highly contrived government accounts:


In number 4, KSM admits his participation in the "Shoe Bomber operation to down two American airplanes." Again, this seems like a credible claim.

Number 3, however, was originally posted as "REDACTED." This was before the Internet started humming about its likely contents.

Given the placement of number 3 high among the provable acts of terror committed against Americans on American soil, I and others speculated that KSM may very well have been staking claim to one of two events.

One is the Oklahoma City bombing. As has been well enough documented, convicted conspirator Terry Nichols made multiple trips to the Philippines when KSM's "nephew," Ramzi Yousef, was living there. Yousef was constructing the bombs for the impending aviation attack that KSM refers to as "the Bojinka operation."

According to a recent House report, Nichols traveled with the book, "The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives," and just happened to show up in Cebu City at the exact same time as master bomber Yousef.

This was November 1994, six months before the Oklahoma City bombing. Nichols changed his itinerary immediately after Yousef's lab was busted by the Manila police in January 1995 and left the county in haste.

In "Against All Enemies," Clinton anti-terror czar Richard Clarke has this to say about the visits of these two terrorists to the same city in the same country at the same time: "We do know that Nichols' bombs did not work before his Philippine stay," writes Clarke, "and were deadly when he returned."

The second likely suspect for the redacted terror act was TWA Flight 800, the 747 blown out of the sky off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996, Saddam's national liberation day.

According to two separate sources within the NSA, on the night the plane went down Yousef phoned KSM from his New York City prison and said—in their native Baluchi– "What had to be done has been done, TWA 800″.

American Airlines 587 was blamed on the pilot for kicking the tail off the aircraft with the rudder pedals. Pan Am 800 was blamed on a short circuit when multiple witnesses reported seeing missiles ascending toward the aircraft. Oklahoma was blamed on Tim McVeigh when an Arab was witnessed parking the Ryder Truck.

As far as flight 800 goes, over 200 interviewed witnesses said they saw a light coming off the water and traveling up into the sky.  Several of those wits were pilots, some of them military pilots that flew in Vietnam and know what a missile looks like.  Several of those pilots claimed that the "missile"
changed course several times as it "locked on' to the target.  The flight that took off just prior to 800 was an Israeli flight that was supposed to have taken off when 800 did, but, delays with 800 caused a shift in the take-off order.

All boats in the sound that night were accounted for...except one that raced off of the radar at high speed moments after the established time of the explosion.  That boat has never been identified.  This is very funny as the Navy was conducting exercises out in the sound that night, doing war simulations, etc.  There was a ton of radar there yet, no one can identify this boat, or where it went?

The NTSB claimed a fuel-air explosion in the main mostly empty fuel tank caused by a spark...yet, in several tests using similar fuel tanks, they could not recreate that type of explosion no matter what they did.

The really sad/funny thing about all of this is that Clinton said, after 911, that he had wished it could have happened on his watch so he could look like the hero.  As we all now know, there were several terrorist attacks on Clinton's watch that he did not want to admit to being terrorism.

I do not normally agree with "conspiracy theories" except for JFK...but, I have read several books on 800 and all of the stuff that we later learned from advanced interrogation techniques, and it is obvious to me that we were not told the entire truth about this incident.

Where in NJ did you live?

I was born in Plainfield and moved to Hunterdon County when I was 7.

I live in Kentucky (for 30 years now)  and do not miss Joisy at all.

Bill

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As far as flight 800 goes, over 200 interviewed witnesses said they saw a light coming off the water and traveling up into the sky.  Several of those wits were pilots, some of them military pilots that flew in Vietnam and know what a missile looks like.  Several of those pilots claimed that the "missile"
changed course several times as it "locked on' to the target.  The flight that took off just prior to 800 was an Israeli flight that was supposed to have taken off when 800 did, but, delays with 800 caused a shift in the take-off order.

All boats in the sound that night were accounted for...except one that raced off of the radar at high speed moments after the established time of the explosion.  That boat has never been identified.  This is very funny as the Navy was conducting exercises out in the sound that night, doing war simulations, etc.  There was a ton of radar there yet, no one can identify this boat, or where it went?

The NTSB claimed a fuel-air explosion in the main mostly empty fuel tank caused by a spark...yet, in several tests using similar fuel tanks, they could not recreate that type of explosion no matter what they did.

The really sad/funny thing about all of this is that Clinton said, after 911, that he had wished it could have happened on his watch so he could look like the hero.  As we all now know, there were several terrorist attacks on Clinton's watch that he did not want to admit to being terrorism.

I do not normally agree with "conspiracy theories" except for JFK...but, I have read several books on 800 and all of the stuff that we later learned from advanced interrogation techniques, and it is obvious to me that we were not told the entire truth about this incident.

Where in NJ did you live?

I was born in Plainfield and moved to Hunterdon County when I was 7.

I live in Kentucky (for 30 years now)  and do not miss Joisy at all.

Bill

Documentary surrounding the likely cover up of the TWA 800 crash.
Produced by James Sanders and Jack Cahill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umn4nsNN2E

@Pirate88179,

I'm from Nutley. That's the town Martha Stewart's from. Her father Ed Kostyra was my Scout Master.

[Pirate88179]

Documentary surrounding the likely cover up of the TWA 800 crash.
Produced by James Sanders and Jack Cahill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umn4nsNN2E

@Pirate88179,

I'm from Nutley. That's the town Martha Stewart's from. Her father Ed Kostyra was my Scout Master.

Nutley?  Then I am sure you know Uncle Floyd?  I met him once in a bar in Bound Brook where he was playing piano.  If you know him or of him, he was also in Good Morning Vietnam.  I used to watch his show all of the time.  I have been there several times on business but, that was along time ago.

Bill

PS  AKA Floyd Vivino.

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Nutley?  Then I am sure you know Uncle Floyd?  I met him once in a bar in Bound Brook where he was playing piano.  If you know him or of him, he was also in Good Morning Vietnam.  I used to watch his show all of the time.  I have been there several times on business but, that was along time ago.

Bill

PS  AKA Floyd Vivino.

@Pirate88179,

Here he is! He really is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UHp3QOOJmQ

[Pirate88179]

@Pirate88179,

Here he is! He really is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UHp3QOOJmQ

Exactly!  He is great and really funny.  His "kids" show was really aimed at adults...and college students. I found a link for his radio show...but it only has one show on it.
http://tunein.com/radio/Uncle-Floyd-Radio-s199901/

Bill