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Started by pomodoro, August 15, 2015, 07:43:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: allcanadian on August 17, 2015, 05:14:13 PM
@MarkE


Did I ... Oh crap, I must be caught in my own illogical fallacy loop again.
You do keep asserting the appeal to authority fallacy.
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So the "facts" of his own "experience" does not create "evidence" for the extraordinary claims?.  You may want to inform the variable time, wormhole, multiple universe people of your miraculous sense of logic because they won't listen to me. Just give them a ring... hey dudes the facts of your own complete lack of tangible experience does not create evidence for extraordinary claims... I'm sure they will be astounded by your sense of logic even if your not a Vulcan.
If you want to keep playing this game we can.  It is not as though you can't look up the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy.
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What is time if time is variable Mark.. I mean really?, why according to the real experts his device may have created a time warping wormhole to multiple parallel universes in which case decades may have past for Mr.Tewari while your stuck here. Yes Mark, very strange but apparently true so in fact in Mr.Tewari's time his device may be very much un-extraordinary relative to yours here.
LOL if there are wormholes anywhere associated with this machine they aren't through parallel universes.
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You know I enjoy this I do however there is one point I cannot quite reconcile. At the end of the day this application of supposedly superior logic, the fallacy, basically amounts to mental masturbation. I mean sure you may think it feels good Mark however I would point out the obvious fact that the Greek/Roman civilizations that created this logic were an epic failure. The historians generally agree that as these civilizations gained supposed intelligence they would tend to sit around debating everything to death and made little or no real progress. I call them the mass-debater's because they get off on this kind of thing despite the fact they tend to go round and round going nowhere fast which would seem to contradict their beliefs.
LOL, now you're attempting to argue against authority.  If you want to advance Mr. Tewari's claims:  bring reliable evidence that they are true.  Then you'll be doing something that Mr. Tewari hasn't.  He should be very grateful.
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Would you be wiling to bet the farm on what basically amounts to an epic failure?... I'm saying no thank you I think I will pass. So while I do believe in logic I also believe in common sense and I'm not quite ready to plunge down the rabbit hole head first. To each his own.
Forget the rabbit hole.  Accepting extraordinary claims against established elements is a swan dive from a high board into an empty pool.
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MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on August 17, 2015, 05:52:35 PM
No, this is another false assertion and misdirection by you.  Tewari is relying on M hypothesis and not the failed N hypothesis.  MarkE and others like him suffers from indetermination of velocity and acceleration measurement used in the major physical equations which are hidden behind the term of inertial frame creating Petitio Principi fallacy.  The below picture clearly shows that the velocity of the charge must be determined with regard to the source of the magnetic field as is shown in this publication, and not with regard to an arbitrary observer, which belongs to the concept that directly causes action-reaction paradox absurdity characteristic in the concept of N hypothesis. The velocity of the magnetic field is equal to the velocity of its source, i.e. to the velocity of the magnet.  The field moves with its source!

Gravock
LOL, the N machine isn't over unity as claimed.

gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on August 17, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
LOL, the N machine isn't over unity as claimed.

I never said it was, as you falsely assert.  The N hypothesis violates the conservation laws, thus the epic failure of the N machine.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

guest1289

Regarding that  Diagram  of  the  device  in  'Reply #49'

The  Reason  why that electrical-wire  would rotate,   is  Exactly  the same reason it  rotates  in  the  Faraday-Motor ,  and in Faraday-Motors  it rotates right around,  and in all the much much simpler versions  .

(  That  device ,  the  Big-Block shaped like a square-ish  horseshoe-magnet,   but the cylinders in the middle joining the  S-Pole to the N-Pole,  the result would be that it's   magnetic-field  would remain inside the  horseshoe-Loop ),  but if not all the  magnetic-field  can get through  that particularly  narrow  connection,  then maybe it's leaking from  that  big  S-Pole to the N-Pole   )

(   How was the above device made,  was it made by the same method as horshoe-magnets,  or did they just glue some bar-magnets together,  because those angles at which they are joined are .........  )

(   Now I can't find for sure how they make  horseshoe-magnets ,  I'm only assuming either by running massive current through it,  or with coils,  or other  )

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    The above makes me wonder,  if there is a  specific science/theories  pertaining to the above case,  of  Either cavities  in  permanent-magnet-loops ,  or  sections where not all the magnetic-field can get through  etc.
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    But this partly reminds me of  'numerous'  reasons why I've always wanted  a  Proper-Donut-Shaped-Magnet(  with the  magnetic-field  running around the circle ),   to be created.

    (   I have a  far-fetched theory,  that without leakage,  that the magnetic-flow constantly flowing in a  Donut-Shaped-Magnet  would( because it's being fed back into itself without leakage)  create more and more energy ,  overunity.   
         This is something that has never happened in magnets before,  because of leakage into the air,  and that leakage may experience some type of  friction  in  air( or even in a vacuum ),  and that  friction would equal energy loss .
             One unusual way to  access  the  magnetic-flow  contained inside  this   Donut-Shaped-Magnet ,   could be  to  shape one  small-sector  of the  ring,  to  be  much-much  narrower  than the rest of the ring,   forcing  some of the  magnetic-field  to leak out and jump  the  cavity ,   this could be what is  occurring  in the  Horse-Shoe-Shaped-Device  above.   )
 
       But,  aside from the  overunity  theory of a   Donut-Shaped-Magnet ,  I also suspect unexpected  results,     if the  Donut was  hollow ( if there was an empty  Tunnel  running right throughout the  circle ),   I think that the magnetic-field  which would normally be contained in the  material  of the  Donut-Shaped-Magnet,  would,   because a type of  equilibrium in the pipe-shaped tunnel,   also flow  eternally in  the empty space of the  Tunnel.

      One way to access the eternal-magnetic-flow  in the above tunnel,  could be to have a slight opening  into  that tunnel,   that opening could either be a  hole,  or  the opening could run right  around the circle of the magnet.

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gravityblock

@guest1289,

That's not a horseshoe magnet.  It's a ferromagnetic core, such as iron, to confine the magnetic field between the poles of the magnets.  If the core isn't saturated, then there shouldn't be any leakage of the flux.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.