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World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar

Started by e2matrix, August 29, 2015, 09:01:12 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: Jimboot on August 31, 2015, 02:33:18 AM
This one smells a little funny to me

Why, because they're in Austrailia?  My brother has his own company producing chrome plated parts for the auto industry.  He has a factory in Taiwan.  Why Taiwan?  It just so happens he got really lucky and got with the right person in Taiwan.  He hasn't been able to duplicate what he did in Taiwan in other countries.

Why did ADGEX formed and is in Australia?

1. The financial stability and the world's best corporate law;
2. The program of investment attraction and protection of foreign investors;
3. Protection of intellectual property (IP) and its capitalization;
4. Minerals - long-term projects;
5. access to the growing markets of India, China, Australia and Africa;
6. products and engineering ADGEX have a unique competitive position and appeal to target markets.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

conradelektro

Please read the specification of this strange flash light:

http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe (click on "Specifications" in the horizontal menu)

- 3 hours per day
- after a 12 hour use it takes 7 to 14 days to recharge
- about 100 lm light output

My speculations (I can only speculate because the web site and the videos contain only sales talk):

- Good LEDs can have 40 lm per Watt of light output (continuous current supply). About 100 lm would then need 2,5 Watt. But one can drive the LEDs intermittently (e.g. like a Joule Thief or with a square wave current and a duty cycle of 10%) and the power demand goes down to a tenth i.e. 250 mW or even lower, down to 50 mW (short spikes are used to drive the LEDs). I could build build pretty bright Joule Thief driven contraptions which worked nicely with 10 mW and rather dimly with 5 mW. The LEDs could well be 3 Watt LEDs, but that would only be the maximum power one can continuously feed to them, not necessarily the power actually fed into the LEDs on average.

- The size of the flash light suggests a "chemical process". I suspect it is a pretty good chemical battery based on a rather slow chemical reaction which needs 7 to 14 days to completely recharge a super cap inside the flash light. It might well be some sort of "crystal battery" while the LEDs are driven with very narrow spikes at a low frequency e.g. 30 spikes per second.

- The way the flash light is presented does not inspire trust, it sounds and looks like a marketing scam. A serious scientist would present a credible chemical, electrical or physical process. They had enough time to file a patent and could now present the technology in a straight forward way. Third party testing is a must and if it is avoided, do not believe in what is offered. And most importantly, they can not even give you one yet. They promise something for December. The videos and the web site are terrible and avoid any credible technical information.

- If they ever actually sell the flash light the hype will fade away quickly once the first credible tests are published by the unlucky customers who handed over $99.--

Greetings, Conrad

gravityblock

Quote from: conradelektro on August 31, 2015, 07:23:51 AM
Please read the specification of this strange flash light:

http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe (click on "Specifications" in the horizontal menu)

- 3 hours per day
- after a 12 hour use it takes 7 to 14 days to recharge
- about 100 lm light output

The rate of recharge varies depending on a range of geographic and environmental factors.  In one of their videos, it says if the flashlight is placed in a "dead zone", then it will take 7 -14 days to recharge.  However, if the environmental factors are right, then it can fully recharge in 2 - 4 hours.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

conradelektro

Quote from: gravityblock on August 31, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
The rate of recharge varies depending on a range of geographic and environmental factors.  In one of their videos, it says if the flashlight is placed in a "dead zone", then it will take 7 -14 days to recharge.  However, if the environmental factors are right, then it can full recharge in 2 - 4 hours.

Gravock

If that promise gives you confidence, you should buy on of these wonder flash lights. Put your money on what you believe. That is the goal of a sales pitch and you look like the perfect target.

Greetings, Conrad

gravityblock

Quote from: conradelektro on August 31, 2015, 07:23:51 AM
- The way the flash light is presented does not inspire trust, it sounds and looks like a marketing scam. A serious scientist would present a credible chemical, electrical or physical process. They had enough time to file a patent and could now present the technology in a straight forward way. Third party testing is a must and if it is avoided, do not believe in what is offered. And most importantly, they can not even give you one yet. They promise something for December. The videos and the web site are terrible and avoid any credible technical information.

They did present a physical process, and that is energy harvesting.  If Adgex is a scam as you claim, then why aren't Adgex's future products, which are based on the same technology as the ELFE flashlight, being sold at the moment.  Their upcoming "Power Bank" would draw more buyers and higher profits than the flashlight.  However, the "Power Bank" isn't being sold at this time.  So, it doesn't look like a marketing scam to me when you look at the full picture.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.