Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED)

[gotoluc]

Hey Woopy.

Probably seen it before and may not be what you are doing with the caps, but it does show a single drive coil powered by a battery with a reed switch and the bemf is taken from the first coil and sent to other a cap bank to power a second drive coil. And then the bemf from the second drive coil to charge a very bad battery.
The second drive coil here also helps the rotor to pick up speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXxvAQ_mdUk

Mags

Sorry Mags, but this is not what we are doing here and overcomplicated.
I have always respected you and your research. However, I need to keep this topic simple and not a consortium of different experiments. So I hope you understand if I delete your post and this one tomorrow.

Kind regards and please feel free to replicate what is being shared here.

Luc

[tinman]

Sorry Mags, but this is not what we are doing here and overcomplicated.
I have always respected you and your research. However, I need to keep this topic simple and not a consortium of different experiments. So I hope you understand if I delete your post and this one tomorrow.

Kind regards and please feel free to replicate what is being shared here.

Luc

Luc
Mags system is much the same-just a little more advanced. He collects the backEMF,and drives a second coil with it-this is what Woopy is doing. The difference is that Mags can trigger the second coil with that captured energy with the second reed switch. He then also captures the backEMF from the second coil,and uses that to charge a battery,where as Woopy looses that within the cap/inductor set up on the second coil.

Mag's is well within the thread title-more so than others ATM as far as i can see
Quote title: Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback

Brad

[seychelles]

I concur with tinman mags is one step ahead of the average BEAR BOBO.

[MileHigh]

I looked at Luc's first clip:  Sharing ideas, how to build a more efficient motor (p.1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfLcBD3Fy7M

When he has the high-voltage coil in the MOT core and no capacitor there is no perceptible attraction with the transformer core top plate.   Then when he ads the 11 uF capacitor to the circuit then there is fairly strong attraction with the transformer core top plate.

It begs the question, why is there no perceptible attraction when there is no capacitor?  Note that in both cases the same BEMF pulse energy is coming from the motor drive coil.   I just find it somewhat unusual that there is no perceptible attraction with no capacitor in the circuit.  Also, what happens to the attractive force as the capacitor gets larger and larger?

This is for Luc and all others interested in this subject to ponder and try to explain.  You are trying to use a second coil to do work on the rotor to make it spin faster so it behooves you to want to understand the why and how behind these issues.

One more time, this is about the difference between just observing the effects and taking note of them  (a "demonstration"), and observing the effects and then understanding the how and why that explain the observed effects (an "experiment.")

[minoly]

This is what I was trying to point out, let's see if your words stick better than mine...
Magluvin is putting the spike to a cap and rather than using 100% of it on one pulse, he is switching it with another reed to another "same voltage coil" and conserving even more to a second battery.


This is a different nuance than what Luc is doing however, as MH states one has to do all the experiments to observe each effect. You don't however have to post a vid each time to prove anything to anyone.


It's all about the spike.


I feel this post is on topic however you might delete it anyway either way I'm still getting a lot out of reading every post in this thread.
Thanks!

I looked at Luc's first clip:  Sharing ideas, how to build a more efficient motor (p.1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfLcBD3Fy7M

When he has the high-voltage coil in the MOT core and no capacitor there is no perceptible attraction with the transformer core top plate.   Then when he ads the 11 uF capacitor to the circuit then there is fairly strong attraction with the transformer core top plate.

It begs the question, why is there no perceptible attraction when there is no capacitor?  Note that in both cases the same BEMF pulse energy is coming from the motor drive coil.   I just find it somewhat unusual that there is no perceptible attraction with no capacitor in the circuit.  Also, what happens to the attractive force as the capacitor gets larger and larger?

This is for Luc and all others interested in this subject to ponder and try to explain.  You are trying to use a second coil to do work on the rotor to make it spin faster so it behooves you to want to understand the why and how behind these issues.

One more time, this is about the difference between just observing the effects and taking note of them  (a "demonstration"), and observing the effects and then understanding the how and why that explain the observed effects (an "experiment.")