Inductive Kickback

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My serial bifilar setup is accepting kickback and the magnetic oscillation is powering an overhead magnet piston GAP appendage that together act as a current amplifier. I tried measuring overall output, but my input current mesurements killed my Reed switch, so I'm out of business for the time being.

[tinman]

Sure as hell wont be you.

Mags

Show me just 1 article on the net that uses the words inductive kickback in a circuit that has an AC input to a circuit of a transformer, light bulb and a resistor.  There are none.  Just like there are none in that scope shot.

As this forum is on the net,and my AC circuit showing inductive spikes is on this forum,then you have been shown 1 article on the net showing inductive spikes in an AC circuit.
Once again,see scope shot below,which is full of inductive spikes.

I see you are also avoiding the original circuit i posted,as that shows a spike being sent to a bifi coil.
Inductive kickback is a term,where as inductive spike is a description.

Using the inductive kickback as a test of the single wire coil and the bifi was a very straight forward way of showing this effect as it either blocks the spike or takes it on. There is no way to dispute it. Its proven.

That video was no proof of anything.

Once again i ask--what is the difference between a bifi coil,and a single wound coil with added capacitance across it?
How much energy was sent to each coil?
How much energy was wasted as heat in each coil?
What was the load on the pickup coil?--none as far as i could see.

So Mags,your video proves nothing at all--maybe the next one will be more informative.

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I plan to generate inductive kickback with my battery core mechanical contact oscillator, then channel it into the serial bifilar and tiny capacitor to try and oscillate my GAP appendage that way. I hope to measure gain in a storage capacitor through a diode that way.

Tinman has to be right about Igor's "Reed Switch Spinner". Power from the magnet has to account for the near unity COP. There's no way the inductive kickback alone could supply that much power back to the source battery.

[Magluvin]

As this forum is on the net,and my AC circuit showing inductive spikes is on this forum,then you have been shown 1 article on the net showing inductive spikes in an AC circuit.
Once again,see scope shot below,which is full of inductive spikes.

I see you are also avoiding the original circuit i posted,as that shows a spike being sent to a bifi coil.
Inductive kickback is a term,where as inductive spike is a description.


That video was no proof of anything.

Once again i ask--what is the difference between a bifi coil,and a single wound coil with added capacitance across it?
How much energy was sent to each coil?
How much energy was wasted as heat in each coil?
What was the load on the pickup coil?--none as far as i could see.

So Mags,your video proves nothing at all--maybe the next one will be more informative.

"As this forum is on the net,and my AC circuit showing inductive spikes is on this forum,then you have been shown 1 article on the net showing inductive spikes in an AC circuit.
Once again,see scope shot below,which is full of inductive spikes.

I see you are also avoiding the original circuit i posted,as that shows a spike being sent to a bifi coil.
Inductive kickback is a term,where as inductive spike is a description."


I see. Lol.  So you here in this thread on the net are the only one.  Like that counts.    ROTF

Avoiding the first circuit? I see no scope shot for that circuit. No vid, no nothing. Led lights up? Sweet and Yay. Good job. Hmm, no measurements? Well then you have shown nothing, as your basis for 'proving something' shows you are showing nothing there pretty much.  Yet when I see the scope shot that is in reference to your AC input circuit, you keep jumping me back to the first pulsed circuit, as if that is the circuit that the scope shot you have shown is from that circuit.    Dude its just getting weird man. Weird indeed.



"That video was no proof of anything."

Well then you got nothing from it. Some do, some dont. Thats what happens with age. Its happens to some. They may have a pill for that.    What it does show is something that you never knew of, and something other than you have ever shown. If you dont get that this is something that Tesla tells us in the patent that this coil can do compared to an single wire coil of the same wire, same total wire length , coil width, inner outer dia, then I guess thats your problem. That was the whole point of the vid was to show this one major difference between the 2 test coils that nobody here has shown yet. There will be more vids showing more of the details of what we can do with this.

Soo what? Do you think I am faking what I have claimed and have shown? Heck, your scope shot is so crammed together, how could we tell if those are inductive kickback spikes or just a mix of freq that the circuit provides from the ac input?  Yet you say its there, hiding in the thickness of it all. Cool. Oh, sweet 21.3mv rms and 46mv rms.  That must be your proof of something going on there.  Your the winner!   Sit back and have a beer! Your proof of something, what ever that is, has more merit than what I have shown!  lol Whatever dude. Make yourself a trophy and sit on it.




"Once again i ask--what is the difference between a bifi coil,and a single wound coil with added capacitance across it?
How much energy was sent to each coil?
How much energy was wasted as heat in each coil?
What was the load on the pickup coil?--none as far as i could see."


Where is yours??? Hypocrite are you?       If you cannot understand that for this first vid it was just to visually show an effect that hasnt been shown here before, then I say its just you being troll.  That vid demonstrates what tesla claimed with the bifilar coils.  This is just you here 'trying' to one up me with your circuit and a scope shot that you have not even explained yet, just a distraction, and you have to come back after the first circuit and ask why hasnt anyone talked about your circuit yet. lol   Thats funny.  I suppose you are not getting the attn you wanted.  Well I guess you need to do a bit better than what you have so far and maybe you wont have to come back and ask again, to make sure people are paying attn to you and your exciting circuit. You have the good luck with those tactics to get people interested.....




"So Mags,your video proves nothing at all--maybe the next one will be more informative."

Well then it is your loss.  And your showing of your circuits and scope shot 'prove' and show even less! If you cannot see that the single wire coil rejected the kicking coil spike as a normal coil should, and the bifilar coil accepted the spike and created a much better magnetic field output to the pickup coil than the single wire coil, then I guess you just cant.  Cool beans. I will continue on with it and you go and continue on with your, whatever it is your trying to show. 

You open a thread on your circuit and Ill open a thread on my idea and lets see whose thread gets more interest. I mean you are all 'Here, Here, look at my circuit and look at my scope shot!!'  Well then open a thread and do the do.  You stay in your thread and Ill stay in mine.  If you want to comment on me in your thread or anywhere else on thins forum, fine, just stay on your side of the fence and Ill stay on mine.


This all started with you sayin you thought I was on the right track and me asking you what that meant exactly. And here we are. You cant post a thing without poking me with nearly every post. Meanwhile you have shown didly, according to your terms of what proves something or not. I have explained everything that I intended to show 'so far' with what I have presented. You show 3 pics and zero explanation, no load or input measurements, etc. and I suppose we are just all suppose to guess at what you are getting at and expect commentary and praise..  Well so far Im at a total loss along with many others with your circuit as you have explained nothing...  I see Erfinder seems to know what your circuit may be doing and I bet he knows more about it than you.    Id bet on that.  He and I have talked for some time and he IS above you(including me and others here) in nearly all this stuff Maybe he can shed some light on it, being you dont.   He has opened my mind up to certain things that has helped me figure out a thing or two about a thing or two.  And I had thanked him for just about every conversation we had.



Mags

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@Tinman,

Here's a quote from Tesla's patent: It states that the capacitive energy stored in the serial bifilar coil is 250,000 times greater then a single wire coil of the same inductance. I fail to see how adding a capacitor to a single wire coil can achieve this kind of result.

"Consider a single wire pancake coil with 1000 turns and 100 volts applied. There will be 0.1 volt difference between each consecutive layer in the coil. The capacitance of the coil will be mainly determined by the geometry (plate spacing) between each consecutive coil layer and is constant for a given coil. The capacitive energy stored in such a coil will be ~ E1 = 1/2 C V^2, or 1/2 C (0.1 ^2). On the other hand if you wind a similar bifilar pancake coil with 1000 turns (same total length of wire) and again apply 100 volts then the midpoint solder connection will be at 50 volts. Now the voltage difference between each consecutive layer in the coil has been increased from 0.1 volt to 50 volts. The capacitance of the coil determined by the geometry hasn't changed; However, the capacitive energy stored in such a bifilar wound coil will be ~ E2 = 1/2 C V^2, or 1/2 C (50 ^2). Or 250,000 times greater than the single wire wound coil of the same inductance".