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What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?

Started by Thphan75, December 17, 2015, 02:01:11 PM

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conradelektro

Quote from: forest on December 21, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
Around year 2039 climate change will destroy current society .Floods , famine, wars, nuclear - total disaster.

Is there a difference (in principle) to my prediction? Of course, you can imagine a million details, if you like.

Future A: most of earth will be destroyed and humanity slips back into a stone age type existence where small bands of people (30 to 100 persons, like a tribe) roam the earth. The technological level will be like in the stone age (stone tools, may be cross bows, more likely the stone age spear thrower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear-thrower, hopefully there will be fire making skills). There will only be a few million people on earth who almost never meet.

Quote from: forest on December 21, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
Humanity can only survive if its social behaviour would change totally.

Will the social behaviour change after the total destruction? Of course not, the "normal behaviour" will again be very suitable for the new stone age. Our "normal social behaviour" is absolutely suitable for a life in small groups (you may call them tribes or bands). Only technology and a great number of people  make the lust for power and the lust for wealth too successful for our own good.

So, without ranting about details:

- There will be total destruction and a reduction of the global population to a few million. How this will happen is not important, thousands of possibilities, each one leads in the end to the same result in principle.

- Human nature (or social behaviour, or how we are) will not change, it is what makes us what we are. A changed humankind would not be humankind any more. It is possible that humans die out like many species before us. How a new ape species, if any evolves, would look like and how it would behave is beyond any speculation.

- Technology can not be a saviour, it amplifies problems. Technology speeds up the striving for power and wealth. Technology makes the bad intentions of people worse not better. A king with a sword can be beaten by a few people, a king with an atomic bomb and an army like the US-army is hard to stop.

Greetings, Conrad

marathonman

Quote from: Thphan75 on December 18, 2015, 09:13:30 PM
You seem to dislike Corporate America and you might be right that they're filthy rich but around the world, I don't see any other corporations giving back as the American corporation.  If you think there are, then it would be better to reference how those corporate countries are better than America's and perhaps then, will CA learn to be better.  Complaints alone won't make a great example, to make a change, take a lead.

Good god, that is some of the best advice i have ever heard. thank you

sm0ky2

@ Conrad

We can never change peoples hunger, nor greed. That's something only they can go through as individuals.
some realize it at an early age, and never go down that route. some spend a good portion of their lives chasing
material dreams, then have a "change of heart", while others live out their lives and die entirely consumed by their greed.

currently those in power strive to consume our excess income. squeezing us here or there, taking real world actions to
keep us under their thumbs. Approving a highway budget, but denying road subsidies to several major metropolitan cities and states. Why? because we spend 40 billion a year on tires..... They want to keep us trapped and stagnated in this game, month to month, year to year, paying our bills, going to work, slaves to the economic machine that keeps us distracted from our true human potential.

What freedom of energy and technology will do for us, is redistribute the wealth, and the power.
people, companies, groups, and other entities will be able to do things they currently cannot do.
When we are able to lower the cost of energy, materials, products, SO MUCH that everyone can afford the luxuries of life...  everyone will have more expendable income, which they will sink into other areas of the economy.
As prices continue to drop, and items become extremely low cost, or nearly free, the money will hold less "meaning" in our lives. It won't matter anymore... everyone will have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
And the rich and powerful elite will have their fortunes, that are then worthless or "worth less".....

Money is what drives the power, and the control. the more money we have, or the more valuable the money we have becomes, the more power and freedom we obtain as people.
We can buy the things we want or need, we can travel, our time becomes more readily available to us.

90% of the cost of EVERYTHING we buy, can be traced back to energy costs and energy-related taxation.
that means if we fix that problem, we can buy 10 things for our dollar.
That's not even including the further lowering of costs that will come from improving manufacturing techniques
as a result of the increase in available free energy.

people fear the loss of jobs that will incur, but as one industry collapses, a new one will take its place.
new fields of human endeavor will pop up and provide jobs for those that need or want to work.
work will also become more of an option for many of us. families able to survive with only one working member.
the rest of the family would have the free time to change the world in their own creative ways.

freeing of energy is much more than the surface level appearance, what you see on your electric bill
or at the gas pump, or when you turn on your furnace to heat your home and water or cook your food.

Its a freeing of us as a culture, as individuals, as a species.
It is time that we are no longer enslaved by their system
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

conradelektro

Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 22, 2015, 02:35:53 PM

What freedom of energy and technology will do for us, is redistribute the wealth, and the power.
people, companies, groups, and other entities will be able to do things they currently cannot do.
When we are able to lower the cost of energy, materials, products, SO MUCH that everyone can afford the luxuries of life...  everyone will have more expendable income, which they will sink into other areas of the economy.
As prices continue to drop, and items become extremely low cost, or nearly free, the money will hold less "meaning" in our lives. It won't matter anymore... everyone will have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
And the rich and powerful elite will have their fortunes, that are then worthless or "worth less".....

90% of the cost of EVERYTHING we buy, can be traced back to energy costs and energy-related taxation.
that means if we fix that problem, we can buy 10 things for our dollar.
That's not even including the further lowering of costs that will come from improving manufacturing techniques
as a result of the increase in available free energy.


This is a nice idea, but I do not buy it.

The freedom of energy and technology is and was always present. We just can not accept it. Yes, with more and cheaper energy one can produce more, but we do not really need more things. People who are free of greed live with very little in a very small house and use very little energy and very little of everything. But only few want such a life. I have met a few, but I could not live like that because I am also greedy and power hungry. (Being greedy and power hungry does not necessarily mean that one has success. Therefore do not worry, I am not rich and not powerful.)

If we got "free energy" (really cheap energy available with little investment by the Mega-Watt everywhere) the world would become a terrible place. Everybody would waste an incredible amount of energy (which causes even more global warming) and the wars and fights will become even more deadly. All conflicts will become more deadly, just imagine a ray gun in the hands of a criminal. Cars, boats and air-planes will become cheaper and more powerful, therefore even more traffic and transportation of goods, which will destroy nature even more. And so on, everything bad will become bigger and more dangerous.

I think you understand what I mean, therefore I stop.

It is clear where we differ. And there is no point in trying to convince each other. I hope you are right, but what I have seen on this world and also in me makes my view more plausible for me. May be you are a better person and therefore more hopeful.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

@Conradelectro,

More evidence I chose the right guy to test my "Synchro Coil".