The Steorn Permanent Magnet Motor Replication Project: It's FLUX time.

[thevorlon]

Hello Everyone,

I have decided this is the thread that will be utilized for the attempted replication of Steorn's Permanent Magnet Motor.

I think to get started we need to do do three things.

1) Set some rules. No spamming or skeptical naysaying slandering on this thread. Honest skepticism is indeed allowed and encouraged, but NOT attacks or statements that show someone has an absolute closed mind.

2) We need to decide what we know so far about Steorn's technology. Basically, we know that one version of their technology is compsed of a wheel attached to a rotor. On this wheel there are four permanent magnets. On the stator there is a permanent magnet. When the wheel is moved in one direction energy is gained and the device with self-power itself. When the wheel is moved the other way the wheel will lose energy.

3) We need to find a source of cheap magnets that should be suitable for such an experiment and define the basic parameters of our attempts. Since Steorn claims that their device is scalable from the very small scale to the very large scale (while saying the effect works slightly better on the small scale or packs more punch so to speak) we should focus on smaller devices. Smaller devices would require smaller magnets and less materials. This would equal less cost and less expense for those of us with very, very limited financial means. Also, if we are successful it would mean making kits would be much cheaper.

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So who is interested in joining me!

Anyone know a source of very cheap neodymium magnets?

[energyman8]

Nice babcat, err vorlon

Should be interesting to see what kind of interest picks up here.

[supersam]

ok vorlon,

do you really want to build a magnet motor or learn about marketing?

i did like your idea of varying flux magnets.  but this bull caca about steorn isn't going to pay the bills i'm afraid.  i've seen em come and iv'e seen em go as the sayings would have it.  but i still like the idea! 

when you order your new magnets to start experimenting with, i would definitealy order alot of different sizes.  i think that is one thing i or anybody else i ever heard of tried.  see if you can get some idea of the sizes of the fields and some rational way to make them just push an object around a continuos 360 before you spend even that much.  it looks like you have the internet.  not saying that experimentation is a bad thing but it can't hurt you to look if your down to the wire.  been there and done that already.

lol
sam

[thevorlon]

First of all, I'm not in this to market anything at all. I want to build one of these motors or have someone build one. I want an overunity device to be built, period. The world I want to live in cannot happen unless we obtain new clean, cheap, and abundant energy sources. And the reason I said anything about kits is not to really *sell* anything, but once we get something working (if that happens) to make sure people will WANT to replicate it. If it cost an arm and a leg or took a lot of work to replicate no one would be that interested.

I'm investigating the best place to order magnets or obtain some locally. The only local option I am aware of are the toy kits called Magnetix, but for the number of small magnets you would obtain an individual could get more per dollar from any internet vender. I'm honestly pretty much down to the wire financially and I'm going to have to figure out exactly how I can get the most for my money.

I also agree on getting various shapes and sizes of magnets. Steorn has said that their technology is moving permanent magnets through magnetic fields they have created with permanent magnets. To try and replicate this I need to obtain many different shapes and sizes of magnets, but since I'm going to work on a small device I will generally look for smaller ones.

Also, I will need to do research into how magnetic fields work and how they can be manipulated by other magnets and various materials.

Of course, I want to be honest. I don't know how fast I am going to get the materials and magnets to start this, but I'm working on it now. My honest hope is this thread will take off like the lifters replication page on JLNLabs with a ton of people working, posting pictures, posting setups, etc. Quite frankly, I don't care if any of my setups ever work or not. It would be nice, but that's not the point. I want SOMEONE to make a working setup anyone can replicate. That should be our goal.

[giantkiller]

http://www.mullerpower.com/index2.php
and
google Perendev motor

--giantkiller