The Steorn Permanent Magnet Motor Replication Project: It's FLUX time.

[thevorlon]

Jack Frost,

Please don't leave us. We need all of our minds working together on this.

Are you trying to say that by having a gain in one part of the rotation and a loss in the other that it means the LEMA is not being utilized, because the LEMA would allow for just one spot that always gives accleration? That makes perfect sense to me. Actually, I hope this is true because it means we might not need some type of mechanical moving stator. Is this what you are trying to say Jack Frost?

By the way, I have held a magnet. But never a neomydium magnet. I am trying to think of various magnetic configurations in my mind, but I'm just trying to get an idea of the kind of force these much more powerful magnets produce.

I'll admit I'm not an engineer, scientists, or even self-educated expert in this. I'm a novice, but I'm facinated, curious, and willing to learn.

[Kent767]

You dont need electricity to power the LEMA..

here's a concept I was thinking of... easy to build probably, but I think there may be a flaw, (the magnet that comes out the bottom of the LEMA would still exert a force, maybe there should be 2 rotors... here's a starting idea... sorry for the crappy drawing.

everything you see is gear driven... the movement of hte shield is controlled by the gears..

consists of 5 gears, a rotating arm(or plate), and a crank shaft, 4 LEMA, and 1 additional magnet on the plate.

the only NON gear part (other than the magnets/LEMAs)  here is the long verticle rectangle (thats the crank shaft)

[Kent767]

sorry for double post...

as a followup... all gears would need to be of equal size, or timing would be wrong, as such the scale of my drawing is off...
(the bottom gear that drives the LEMA gears would need to be the same size as the lema gears)
hopefully its at least somewhat clear enough for someone to get an idea..

[allcanadian]

I think steorn is full of it- the LEMA is his core technology, his patent is all over the net and he is trying to confuse people. He isn't smart enough to make a complicated patent so he patents the core technology, he regrets his actions because everyone and there dog is going to build one-not buy one. So he starts spreading dis-information to confuse people which from reading this web page he seems to have done. I think the steorn Quest site has it bang on- only the actuator on the motor should have 3 magnets,the shield covering 2 of them at a time. So one magnet is exposed alternately on the ends of the actuator, so why not have 2 rotors-each rotor interacting with the end magnet being exposed then covered.Then the shield balances on the three actuator magnets=small input, the rotor has a large force because the rotor magnet approaching the non-covered magnet has a greater pull force than the other rotor magnet attracted to the closed shield but moving away from it. And why use a solenoid? If this apparatus produces more power than is used to move the shield then you put a cam on the rotor to move the shield at the right time,which is way more efficient and easier to build.As well, someone mentioned a linear track-the steorn patent shows one and this verifies there limited engineering ability,this is a useless idea- how many machines do you know of that use a linear track? exactly my point, they are good for slow heavy machinery nothing else. Im going to build the better motor I explained and I will let you know what happens.
best of luck

[thevorlon]

Alright. It seems we have two camps. One camp that believes the LEMA is the key to their over-unity device and another that does not believe it's the key to making their device work. Basically, we have the LEMA camp, another group who thinks the timing of bringing magnets closer and then apart, and others who think it's just a configuration of permanent magnets.

Of course everyone should be free to try and replicate whatever they want.

All I'm hoping for is that one of these methods will work, create overunity, and the world will unlimited clean abundant energy.

However, let me ask you this. In the LEMA setup at www.steornquest.com would the shielding of the actuator eventually become magnetized and useless? I know that ferramagnetic materials can become magnetized if exposed to a magnetic field for long enough. Are there any materials that could be used that would not become magnetized and lose their effectiveness?