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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 16, 2016, 01:09:01 PM

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avalon

Quote from: picowatt on January 16, 2016, 04:29:10 PM
So, considering how easily the tub is lifted with one hand from the top edge indicating there is little weight inside, and the fact that the watt meter reads exactly zero watts, not a few watts, but exactly zero, it is easier for you to believe that there is a magic transformer inside and not the use of the very simple method I described, which will produce identical results?

Oh well...

PW

Good thinking. I haven't thought of that when making the first video.

It could be a viable scenario except that the device drops the voltage when overloaded. So, if there is a simple bypass inside than the input voltage will simply be equal to the output voltage (minus some negligible losses for additional wiring). Instead, the output voltage drops when the device is overloaded.

I'll quickly make another video later on today showing the input and output voltages.

~A

Just..Sayin..

Quote from: avalon on January 16, 2016, 04:56:03 PM
Good thinking. I haven't thought of that when making the first video.

It could be a viable scenario except that the device (TRANSFORMER) drops the voltage when overloaded. So, if there is a simple bypass inside than the input voltage will simply be equal to the output voltage (minus some negligible losses for additional wiring). Instead, the output voltage drops when the device (TRANSFORMER) is overloaded.

I'll quickly make another video later on today showing the input and output voltages.

~A

Right Avalon?

pomodoro

Without oscilloscope traces of simultaneous voltage and current  (V across a small value  resistor) going into the device all we can deduce is that the device defeats the simple kw meter. A handy device none the less if it works on the house meter, which it most likely will not.

MileHigh

Quote from: picowatt on January 16, 2016, 04:29:10 PM
So, considering how easily the tub is lifted with one hand from the top edge indicating there is little weight inside, and the fact that the watt meter reads exactly zero watts, not a few watts, but exactly zero, it is easier for you to believe that there is a magic transformer inside and not the use of the very simple method I described, which will produce identical results?

Oh well...

PW

I wasn't aware of that little trick.  Sounds like a clamp-on ammeter would come in handy.

We have been here before and I am not feeling it at all.

picowatt

Quote from: MileHigh on January 16, 2016, 07:39:01 PM
I wasn't aware of that little trick.  Sounds like a clamp-on ammeter would come in handy.

We have been here before and I am not feeling it at all.

MH,

I confirmed what I originally posted using a P4400 Kill-A-Watt meter.

If the neutral side of the load is returned thru the third prong ground, my meter reads zero watts.

Perhaps a neutral to ground connection within the tub was unintentional or unnoticed, but doing as I posted does replicate what is seen in the video.

PW