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Common batteries are free energy sources

Started by Tesla_2006, October 30, 2006, 07:57:12 AM

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Tesla_2006

Common rechargeable batteries are free energy devices, is not neccesary build a special battery, I get many kilowatts from battery banks for many years without recharge that and I want resume here my experience
In all electric circuit there is 2 main laws, energy conservation law ( Kirchoff voltage ), charge conservation ( Kirchoff current), this last law is bad in use, when we connect a battery to a resistive load there is a charge flow between the poles, that charge for that law don't loose but goto the opossite pole for get the equilibrium, negative and positive charges go in neutral condition, in any electric circuit the charge in the system
go in conservation, if we move the charges from the battery to the load and then from the load to the battery the energy flow will be for ever
Nikola Tesla at the ends of the 19 century was using common batteries of that epoque for power his remote control vehicles, he build vessels with DC motor
powered form a bank of 4 batteries, that vessels was designed for travel arround the world for go to any place powered only for that battery bank and never
that batteries go in discharge, Tesla known the charge principle of conservation and know how recycle that charges for get the permanent motion of current in the circuits
In a battery there is 2 currents , the electronic current flow out the battery and an ionic current flow inside the battery, that ionic current is composed of
more inertia than the electrons flow out the battery ,then when we open the circuit the electronic current go fast to zero, but the internal ionic current go slow
to zero and then if we open a circuit when a battery is in charge it remains in charge for a certain time
A battery is like a condenser but is not a condenser in the exact term, but when there is a current from a battery it discharge and when a current goto a battery
it charges, for get that charges flow between the battery and the load we must to have at least 3 batteries as show in the following

Case A

*********Rload*********
*                                    *
*            -----> I             *
2                                    *
*                                    *
*                                    3
*                                    *
1                                    *
*                                    *
*                                    *
**********************

1,2,3 are the batteries, 1 and 2 in series, positive of 1 join to negative of 2 and positive of 3 join to positive of 2

When the system start 1 and 2 are fully charged for example 12V and 3 is discharged or with low voltage, for example 1 Volt, then there is a current flow across the resistive load
and the initial voltage in the load 24 V at maximun power, then 3 begins in charge and 1 and 2 begins in discharge but always in all time the total charge in the system is the same, charges
outgoing from 1 and 2 are received for 3, if that configuration is permanent the system get the equilibrium and the current go to zero but always the charge will be the same in the system
For sure there is a constant current flux the system never must go in equilibrium, then when 3 is being charged we change the configuration to the following

Case B

*********Rload*********
*                                    *
*                -----> I         *
1                                    *
*                                    *
*                                    2
*                                    *
3                                    *
*                                    *
*                                    *
**********************

In this position 1 and 2 begins discharged at the same voltage and 3 with the few voltage got before cause now a low current for the load but 3 begins in charge because there is the same internal current
than in the case A in the internal of 3, 1 follow giving his charge, 2 begins in charge, the total charge follow constant and then we go to case C


Case C

*********Rload*********
*                                    *
*                -----> I         *
3                                    *
*                                    *
*                                    1
*                                    *
2                                    *
*                                    *
*                                    *
**********************


Here 1 restore his charge from 2 and 3, 2 remains in charge for the intertial internal currents


and so in the next conmutation we have a new cycle in the case A but charge is the same, if the internal intertial currents don't was considerated 3 will be with the same charge and voltage but if we design the conmutation
frequency is the adecuated 3 finish with more charge and there is more charge in the system but with or without taht charge excess the system remains in constant discharge-charge autopowered for ever
My firsts tests was with little Ni-Cd batteries of 9 V and bulbs and the system never stop for months
With this 3 batteries the load voltage may be inadecuated for a specific load 24 V in load for 12 V batteries

For get the maximun performance Tesla then use 4 batteries in the following setup


Case A


*********Rload*************
*                                      *   *
*                  -----> I         *   *
2                                      *   *
*                                      *   *
*                                      3   4
*                                      *   *
1                                      *   *
*                                      *   *
*                                      *   *
**************************

1 and 2 in series , 3 and 4 in paralell, 1,3,4 have the same negative pole, 3 and 4 are in serie with diodes for don't existence of currents between them, at start all batteries are full charged and so, 1 and 2 go in discharge passing his charge to 3 and 4
and if all the batteries are the same and of 12 V there is 12 V in the load ai maximun current I and power, then after a certain time the setup changes to the case B


Case A

**********Rload********
*   *                               *
*   *                               *
*   *             I <-----       *
*   *                               3
1   2                               *
*   *                               *
*   *                               4
*   *                               *
*   *                               *
**********************

Now changes, 1 and 2 in paralell with his diodes and 3 and 4 in series, 3 and 4 return the charges to 1 and 2 and I invert his direction to maximal power and so the cycle repeats and the system remains autopowered for ever


Depending of battery quality the system for many kilowatts remains autopowered for years not only for the charge conservation law, beside for the inertial ionic current effect appears a excess of charge

I test and use this devices with resistive load and DC motors and DC / AC converters

Control circuits are oscillators and power actuators are diodes and transistors
Of course batteries are not designed for eternal life but with this methods you never need recharge in all his useful life

In consequence any common battery is a free energy device


Thanks

ResinRat2

Hi Tesla_2006,

This seems a little vague for me to fully understand what you are proposing exactly.

When you say that after a period of time the configuration is switched, what period of time do you mean? Is it after the first configuration is discharged and the bulb no longer lights, or is it after an hour, or after a minute, or what time period is used?

Also, are there any other components left out of the diagram, such as resistors, capacitors, etc. Maybe you could give a more exact diagram. Components clearly identified, such as 9 volt battery, 2 volt light, etc.
Perhaps you could clearly label a configuration that you successfully operated for a long period of time. This would be very much appreciated and would help a great deal to clarify what you mean.

Thanks for all your effort. We appreciate the information.

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pg46

Hi Tesla_2006

Very cool thing you got happeneing there. You have explained it very well although I too aren't completely sure about some of your connections. For example where are the diodes installed and in what direction? Like resinrat says it would be nice to know more about the switching circuits.
A clear diagram of the most basic system will be helpful for sure in clarifying the concept.

But thanks for sharing this interesting idea and hope we hear more from you.

Best Regards,

Kator01

Folks

please have a look at the picture attached.

Tesla_2006, please correct me if there is a mistake.
The reason for the diodes is that the batteries can not work against each other ( not one batterie o the same voltage-specification has the exact voltage like another ) because of small voltage-differences there would be a mutual ping-pong charge-discharge-efect. If left for some time  ( poles connected without Diodes) the batteries kill themselves.

Kator

FreeEnergy

Quote from: Kator01 on October 30, 2006, 06:41:24 PM
Folks

please have a look at the picture attached.

Tesla_2006, please correct me if there is a mistake.
The reason for the diodes is that the batteries can not work against each other ( not one batterie o the same voltage-specification has the exact voltage like another ) because of small voltage-differences there would be a mutual ping-pong charge-discharge-efect. If left for some time  ( poles connected without Diodes) the batteries kill themselves.

Kator


have you tryed this configuration in real life? if so what were the results.