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The Fourth Fundamental Passive Circuit Element

Started by gravityblock, March 02, 2016, 12:57:18 PM

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Nink

Quote from: gravityblock on March 05, 2016, 04:48:38 PM
They didn't create 1000 snyapses because only 100 was needed for their proof of concept.  You don't build two houses if you're only going to utilize 1 house.

Funding for memristors is now being funneled into Known in the form of government contracts and commercialization (taxation) for further development.  In other-words, the taxpayer is funding memristors through government contracts with Knowm.

Gravock

The funding Nugent had ended in 2013 I already told you that and you ignored it.  Commercially all knowm  have come up with was 8 memristors on a single IC

gravityblock

Quote from: Nink on March 05, 2016, 04:56:29 PM
The funding Nugent had ended in 2013 I already told you that and you ignored it.  Commercially all knowm  have come up with was 8 memristors on a single IC

Look at the timeline below.  The eight, 8, discrete memristors in a 16 Pin Ceramic DIP IC is a proof of concept and in no way represents Moores law in memristors.  Lets have a look at the raw research die (second image below).  The research die was created to allow study of device operation over a wide range of device sizes. The die are 7860μm by 5760μm and consists of 9 columns of devices, each corresponding to a different device size. The size is listed at the bottom of each column. Each column contains 20 rows of each device size per column, for a total of 180 devices.  They're available for research and development.  As you can see, they didn't try to cram as many memristors onto a single IC that is currently possible.  180 device sizes with 180 memristors is sufficient to allow for the study of device operations over a wide range of device sizes.  The raw research die itself is much smaller than the package of the IC.  Once again, this doesn't represent moores law in memristors.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Nink

So you agree they have no funding and the best they have made is an 8 bit Memristor. If we use them as a baseline the best they can hope for is 256 bits no parity. I was generous and took UC lab results and stated 3200 Synapse but as everyone knows what is achievable in a lab, in no  way reflects anywhere close to what is commercially achievable.


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I guess your silence is agreement.  Get back to me in 10 years.

gravityblock

Quote from: Nink on March 05, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
So you agree they have no funding and the best they have made is an 8 bit Memristor. If we use them as a baseline the best we can hope for is 256 bits or 8 bytes no parity. I was generous and took UC lab results that no in way reflects anywhere close to what is commercially achievable.

No, I don't agree with you.  There are 180 devices on the raw research die of varying sizes ranging from 1 to 30 micrometers with 180 memristors on it (see images below). Each device has 1 memristor.  By taking the smallest device consisting of 1 memristor, which is 1 square micrometer (see image below), then it is theoretically possible to place at least 45,270,000 devices with a memristor on a 45.28 mm2 die.  This isn't taking into account half of the surface area of the die that isn't being utilized, so we'll say this unused surface area will make up the space between the 45,270,000 memristor devices (5,658,750 byte memristor).  The current die is a proof of concept for research and develepment due to popular demand and the number of memristors on it doesn't reflect how many memristors can be placed on the die.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: Nink on March 05, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
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I guess your silence is agreement.  Get back to me in 10 years.

My 3 hour of silence was because I had to drive out to the lake house (2 hour drive round trip) to bring a few things (stove, small refrigerator, misc. items) back to the house.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.