Simple questions

[Pirate88179]

  Of course, as OU is just a misnomer.  The point is that solar panels once bought will produce energy that does not cost you a dime.
However, storage batteries are another thing, as they don't come with a 25 years guarantee, nor are they cheap nor free.

   Once we know how to manufacture energy, "out of thin air" the batteries won't be needed, at all.

Solar cells do not produce energy...they only convert it per the laws of physics.  I am not sure we are on the same page here.

Bill

[memoryman]

Actually, Nick, we already know that. Converting 'heat' directly into electricity has been done, with microWatt output. Scaling it up into commercial products is being worked on. After all, it isn't energy as such that matters, but the FLOW of energy, which produces work. And getting work done is what we all want

[NickZ]

     Pirate:
    Energy can only be converted, from one form to another, but not produced. So we are on the same page.
    What is producing the energy when a magnet is passed by a coil? That energy is not produced by the magnet, nor the coil, any more than energy is "produced" by a solar panel. 

[Hoppy]

     Pirate:
    Energy can only be converted, from one form to another, but not produced. So we are on the same page.
    What is producing the energy when a magnet is passed by a coil? That energy is not produced by the magnet, nor the coil, any more than energy is "produced" by a solar panel.

Nick,

If the magnet and coil are stationary, then no energy is produced. If either the coil or the magnet across one another, then electrical energy is produced from the coil. So, the production of electrical energy relies on movement and movement of the coil or magnet rely on energy supplied to the prime mover. In this case, its a conversion of mechanical energy to electrical energy, with the prime mover being the thing doing the movement. However, If a piece of wood is moved across the coil, or vica-versa, then no electrical energy is produced from the coil, so the materials used have to have the necessary elemental properties to be able to cause a reaction between them by external stimulus. In the case of a solar panel, this is the suns radiant energy being directly converted to electricity by the material elements used in the solar panel receptors - free energy once the panel is paid for.  This is simplistically how I see it.

[NickZ]

     I've heard it all before. It's the same bullshit that we learned in school over the last 100 years. And, is why I say that the cause of this energy is NOT coming from the magnet, coils, or their movement.  But, from something else, instead,  the invisible Aether, along with the Earth vortexial motion, and force field. Which you can't prove, or disprove, nor can current science.
That is the "prime mover", in this case, instead.
 
   The Earth vortexial motion and it's force field is what's moving, all the time, and if it were not so, moving a magnet by a coil, would be like moving a piece of wood by the coils, instead.  The cause is not in the movement, but in the field that the magnet and coils are in. The same field that is holding our planet in it's orbit. There is already "movement" going on all the time.  What we need to learn to do, is to tap Earth's force field. Which is what some of these devices are doing. And is what Tesla has mentioned many many times. Yet our best scientist, don't believe it? They think that they know more about it, than Tesla.