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New gravity motor from China

Started by hartiberlin, November 01, 2006, 11:53:37 AM

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hartiberlin

@FreeEnergy

unfortunately not.

Think about it.
When the float enters the tube from the bottom,
it displaces the same amount if water inside the tube, it
itsself has as its volume.
So after it has gone out of the top,
there is exactly this volume less water inside the tube..
Then this volume of water has to be pumped again into the tube,
but that needs again as much energy as was won,
when the float did rise to the top.
As the water is also heavier than the float,
indeed we need more energy to pump the water up
to the top.

The only trick I can think of is, to get the water up there
in a different fashion or only from a higher level, so you need
not to transport it from the lower level to the highest level
or don?t  use a hose to do it to overcome the hydrostatic pressure paradoxon...


Hmm, this is really a hard question to solve this puzzle...
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Dingus Mungus

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 07, 2006, 01:40:57 PM
Hi Rob, hmm, I think you are right. That is a problem. The float displaces water out of the tube, when it goes in at the bottom and finally, when it exits at the top this much water then is missing inside the tube.... Hmm, can we find a way around it ?

Actually no... the three valve animation does take displacement in to account because of the negative pressure require to maintain the water level. I will further explain with some diagrams tonight when I'm done here at work.


slncspkr

 I think that if they use a lid in the bottom part that is going to open upwards only when they drop the weight in the water then the weight starts to go up is going to push the lid up(lid does'nt need to be heavy)and when it passes thru, lid goes back down closing the entrance.
at this time they can let go of the vaquum valve wich is going to release the water back down and the weight of the water is going to seal the bottom lid. as the weight goes up, the top lid opens upward because now there is no pressure inside and now they can use another way to pull the weight out and put it back in the chain. At this point in time they have lost the volume of water equal to the volume of the weight.but like i said before maybe if they make the system high enough they have plenty of power to pump the water back inside thru the same entrance in the bottom and at the same time the pressure from sucking water back inside is going to keep the top cover seal.
I do'nt know.

hartiberlin

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on November 07, 2006, 05:36:07 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on November 07, 2006, 01:40:57 PM
Hi Rob, hmm, I think you are right. That is a problem. The float displaces water out of the tube, when it goes in at the bottom and finally, when it exits at the top this much water then is missing inside the tube.... Hmm, can we find a way around it ?

Actually no... the three valve animation does take displacement in to account because of the negative pressure require to maintain the water level. I will further explain with some diagrams tonight when I'm done here at work.

Dingus you could be probably right.
It seems to require then every time to have at least 2 floats inside the tube at the
same time, right ?
And it also needs exactly your setup with the 3 shutting door plates,
right ?
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