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DeBunk This

Started by tinman, April 15, 2016, 07:41:05 AM

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tinman

Quote from: Lidmotor on April 26, 2016, 01:24:49 PM
Brad
   It is another strange Motor/Generator "illusion" but once again ---how?  The big blue generator is probably where the trick is hidden.  It might not be a generator at all.  It is big enough to hold a car battery and a big inverter-----or under that tape on the 'Made in Italy" spec plate it says BEDINI.  Ha  ;D
   I like the blue PJs, sunglasses and bare feet.  In magic that is called 'misdirection'. 8)

Rusty

Ok,well this is where the power of observation comes in.
Who likes that very large and !heavy :D! flywheel ?.
Watch from 2:30 :o . Now,that guy is either superman ,or that flywheel is plastic,timber or cardboard,as there is no way in hell he could spin a steel flywheel that size up that fast with one hand,and then stop it just as quick with one hand. Also,when he spins it up just before plugging the motor in,it has near stopped spinning in about 3 second's. A steel flywheel that size would take a minute at least to spin down to a stop-even with the belts and motor hooked to it.

So the flywheel is a fake to start with. :D

Second-as i stated in my first post,and Bill stated later,that motor would be drawing a huge amount of current for a long period of time starting that slowly under such a load--but the little wires can still be carried in his hand--with no sign of smoke.

Third--take a very close look at 4:44,and again at 5:41,and best of all,9:52-use full screen option to get a good look :o--see pic below.
Do you see anything wrong with this jumper wiring setup? ;D

So here is what i have come up with--how it is faked.

1-the large green electric motor is just the shell of an old motor,and inside that motor is a small DC electric motor-along with battery/batteries. It is clear from the picture below,that the wires coming from the generator are hooked together by the jumper configuration. This means that they just complete the battery DC motor circuit in the green electric motor,and his !so called! power board plug that was suppose to be supplying mains power,is also just a jumper connection,and the wires going through the door way,are just twisted together on the other side of the door--that you dont see.

2-The flywheel is definitely not steel or iron. I would say it is made from timber,and well sanded and painted--looks great ;)

3- Inside the so called generator,there is a large battery,or two smaller ones hooked together in parallel,along with an inverter. The shaft with the pully on is a dummy stub shaft,and is hooked to nothing,but only there to carry the belt.

4- Looking that the chocky block,and how all the wires are linked together,takes a little more nutting out. You would think that the inverters output would be shorted,as all 4 pins on the chocky block are wired together. As he uses the two top outputs that are toward the back of the generator to power all his power tool's,we can assume that the steel cores inside the chocky block on those two outputs have been cut in half,and do not run through from top to bottom. The inverter wires come in through the center of the chocky block,and are only connected to the two top halves of the chocky block connector.

5-also note that the flywheel is rotating very slowly,and the ratio from flywheel to generator is 1:1.5 at best-looking at pulley diameters. Those generators need to spin at around 3600RPM to give 50Hz,and there is no way that flywheel is doing around 2000RPM +

So thats my guess based on what i see in the video,and i could replicate this one easily.

Brad

Lidmotor

Good debunk Brad.  You have to admit the guy did a pretty good job on the "project".  Too bad there were so many obvious flaws in the thing.  I think that I would have at least cleaned up all the junk on the floor before I did the video.  A scaled down version of this would make a nice conversation piece if you improved the design a bit--but why bother. 
   ....and one more free energy device bites the dust. ;D

  I am still puzzled by that twin shade pole motor one.  The Chineeeeeezzeee one. :-\

  Rusty

P.S.  I stopped the video at 10:30 and you can see where the main feed wires come out of the generator (inverter?) so the terminal block is wired correctly and not shorted as we thought.  I'm still going with the idea the inside 'Big Blue' is a car battery and a strong inverter to run every thing. 

deanc5

QuoteThird--take a very close look at 4:44,and again at 5:41,and best of all,9:52-use full screen option to get a good look [/size]--see pic below.Do you see anything wrong with this jumper wiring setup?  from Tinman


Im not saying that I advocate the validity of this machine, but if you look closely at the wires on the "generator", you see that 2 does not connect to 3 on the connector block. The fatter wires at 1 and 2 come out of the motor body just below the connector block.


Anyway, I believe its faked.

Lidmotor

  I was 'inspired' so I built this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWuVUDjWGSo
A small desktop version of the fakes we are looking at would be fun to build and have.  They are curious toys.  I see no harm in them as long as people realize what they are----fakes.
---Rusty

conradelektro

Quote from: Lidmotor on April 27, 2016, 06:08:09 PM
  I was 'inspired' so I built this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWuVUDjWGSo
A small desktop version of the fakes we are looking at would be fun to build and have.  They are curious toys.  I see no harm in them as long as people realize what they are----fakes.
---Rusty

Very nice and clever bricolage!

Hiding the power source (super cap) in plain sight is a nice touch.

What I do not understand is why some people like the man with the sun glasses go to all that trouble in order to gain some short lived fame. Just moving the heavy stuff and mounting it must be a chore. (I do understand why you built your small debunk version. It is educational and funny.)

Greetings, Conrad