MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[MileHigh]

Well, then you can't talk like a sexist pig in Engineeringese:

B4∝qru/18qtπ?

No secret decoder rings are available.

[verpies]

So that 12 Webers then could be placed on any identical inductor and when "released" return the stored energy.

Almost, but it would depend how many Amperes were responsible for creating that flux, because Joule=Weber*Ampere.
E=½LI² still holds.

[tinman]

Well you are flat-out WRONG, and the results of the formula are 100% correct.

Yes, we are going to talk about the integral form of the formula for an inductor and the double-standard you showed with your jackass behaviour.

I posted the formula for an inductor and the image is attached to this posting.

That is a generic formula that anybody that is familiar with an inductor will recognize right away and you can find it in 1000 textbooks.  The formula has nothing to do with me at all.

And what did you do?

You went nuts and made a complete ass of yourself over multiple postings.   You said stuff like this:

You are the epic failure others claim you to be.
You are a total disaster.
Your (sic) a fraud.
You epic failure.
You are now the laughing stock of this forum.





I have no problem with debating, but double-standards like that are unacceptable.





MileHigh

Oh come now MH. We only need look at some of your idiotic idea's to see that you are not one to follow or listen to.
E.G-- an ideal voltage source dose not contain energy
Energy just disappears<--that one's a doozy

Just a couple in this thread alone that i can recall,but the JT thread--well,that one is loaded with your mistakes. You  are free of course to put your actual circuit together,and confirm your theoretical answer

If Poynt or Verpies or someone else had posted that standard formula would you have reacted like that?  The answer is no, you would not have done that.It shows a double-standard and how you shamelessly compromised your behaviour and made a fool of yourself.

I noticed that you did not go off at Poynt like a half cocked chicken when he also answered your question incorrectly. You will also notice that Poynt made a public post here on this thread telling me to calm it down a bit,and yet he graced you with a personal!private! message to tell you to do the same-->how's them double standards looking now?.

So here is how it is cupcake.
I will not be a part of MHs lobotomy class,nor will i accept theory as fact.

I really doubt that I will debate much with you in the future, but if we do, do not try to pull off another idiotic stunt like you tried to pull off when I posted a standard formula used in electronics all the time.  Pull yourself together and act like a responsible adult.

You seem to suffer from memory loss as well MH

And as far as this thread goes you can eat your own words.  You are the epic failure that could not make progress and get up the learning curve and answer this simple question that consists of a power source and one single component.  You are the laughing stock of the forum, just go read the first 10 pages of this thread and look at what you are saying.

An ideal voltage source contains no energy
The energy just disappears.

Im sure some will have a good chuckle at those two statements,and because of them,i doubt very much you could make an accurate power calculation of how much energy your circuit will need for a continual run of the cycles you set.

I also doubt that you would have answered your question correctly,as you would have missed the bit about the current continuing to flow during the 0 volt phase of your question--but i guess we will never know,as you avoided answering your own question at all costs.
Perhaps i should have got you to email Poynt your answer before the thread got under way,and then he could have posted your answer here,after i posted the generic one. Hindsight is a wonderful thing,but it never seems to help much .



Brad

[verpies]

I need to look over that post on the pulse motor on time

You can find it here.  The break-even point when the energy dissipated in the resistance = energy stored in the magnetic flux, is 1.15 Tau.
You may also find another post of mine interesting, which is 3 post after the one linked above.

If the assumption I have made about the 0 constraints leaving the energy stored in the flux is reasonable then I need to find the mechanism that holds the flux when V=0

Indeed, an ideal inductor (shorted) will maintain the level of magnetic flux penetrating it ...no matter what happens.
You can see it in this animation.

I call this mechanism the quantitative Lenz law.
This is to differentiate it from the qualitative Lenz law that only states the direction of the induced current and nothing about its magnitude.

[MileHigh]

Brad:

No surprise, you would not account for your double-standard and your outrageous behaviour.

E.G-- an ideal voltage source dose not contain energy
Energy just disappears<--that one's a doozy

One more time, you are not playing the thread, the thread is playing you.  All that you are doing is showing that you are incapable of understanding the secondary issues related to an ideal voltage source.  Your imagination is not capable of going there and fully understanding this abstraction, it's beyond your powers of conception.  Even though I made several attempts to explain this to you, it didn't register, it was like talking to a blank wall.  I can assure you that many people feel dismay in seeing this limitation that you have.  The only thing you can do is comical, and pretend that it is wrong.  You are exposing your severe limitations.

Just a couple in this thread alone that i can recall,but the JT thread--well,that one is loaded with your mistakes. You  are free of course to put your actual circuit together,and confirm your theoretical answer

I made mistakes in the JT thread, but you easily made 10X the number of mistakes.  I just didn't parade them around the block 40 times like you did.  I could spin circles around you on a bench.

I noticed that you did not go off at Poynt like a half cocked chicken when he also answered your question incorrectly.

I did not go after Poynt because I knew that he just temporarily tripped up.  I knew that he knew the true answer just like he knew that I knew the true answer.  There was no double-standard.

If you say that I suffer from memory loss, then you suffer way more memory loss.  What about all of those technical points that just pass right through you like you aren't even there?  Did you forget my multiple attempts to explain the secondary issues related to an ideal voltage source to you?

An ideal voltage source contains no energy
The energy just disappears.

Yes, and it's a shame that your brain is so stuck and so limited.  Unfortunately, there is nothing to laugh about there.

I also doubt that you would have answered your question correctly,as you would have missed the bit about the current continuing to flow during the 0 volt phase of your question--but i guess we will never know,as you avoided answering your own question at all costs.

The above is just shameless bluffing in an attempt to save face but all that "bluffing" does is make you look even worse.

MileHigh