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MH's ideal coil and voltage question

Started by tinman, May 08, 2016, 04:42:41 AM

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Can a voltage exist across an ideal inductor that has a steady DC current flowing through it

yes it can
5 (25%)
no it cannot
11 (55%)
I have no idea
4 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 20

MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on May 30, 2016, 07:30:38 PM
author=MileHigh link=topic=16589.msg485400#msg485400 date=1464593672]
MileHigh

More lies from you MH,and im fed up with them.
It was told very clearly that the ideal voltage from the ideal voltage source would not vary in time!!REGARDLESS OF LOAD!!-->when will that sink into your thick head?.
The only time the voltage will vary,is when determined to do so by the user.

So enough of your bullshit.

You think Mags is harassing you?,well i think you should look at the crap you continue to post--The lies such as above.

When will you admit that you got your wires crossed again?.

The only time wasted here,is on you,and trying to get you to read everything that is posted in threads.

What you need to do MH,is give your head a good slap,and snap out of this !!poor me!! crap--it's getting beyond a joke.

No one ow's you anything,as you have given as good as you have gotten,and as could be seen in the JT thread,you gave to me far worse that i gave to you--did you see me asking for an apology ?--no,didnt think so,as i really dont care for your insults to much at all.

So give it a rest MH,as we can all see what your doing here,and that is !!once again!! taunting Mag's,and just itching to get him fired up--so as you can once again say--oh look,Mags is being nasty toward me again.

The only time wasted on the ideal voltage saga,was your time,as we all knew what an ideal voltage is/was long before you started your rant on the subject.

Brad

For the ideal voltage source, that's your 150th bait and switch.  You should get a trophy for that or something.  You fought the idea that an ideal voltage source can vary in time repeatedly, and you pulled up the textbook definition as "proof" that an ideal voltage source cannot vary in time.  The fact that you are denying that fact with a bait and switch based around the choice of words is laughable.  We all know, your brain would sizzle and crackle and spit out hot embers if you simply said, "Sorry guys, I was way off on the ideal voltage source business and I wasted a lot of time."  What a joke.  Step up to the plate and be a man once in a while.

Do you remember perhaps about six or eight months ago some guy was on here for less than two weeks.  He taunted you, he mocked you, he demeaned you repeatedly.  He called you nasty names and insulted you.  He did it every single day he was on the forum.  Did you like it?  How would you like it if he stuck around for a full year and did it to you every single day?

But within two weeks he was gone.  And before he left he apologized to you and acknowledged what he did was wrong.  He was a complete jackass, but in the end owned up to his behaviour and acted like a man.  How about them apples?

And the reality for you on the technical side of things is we found out that you are not the equivalent of six months through an Electronics 001 course, it's more like you are 2 1/2 weeks through an Electronics 001 course and you have barely opened up your book.  So you can do nothing about that because it's "just a hobby," it's your choice.  But if I am involved with a thread that you are on you are not going to get special treatment from me and if you say daft nonsensical junk then you are going to be told that it's daft nonsensical junk.  We have had truckloads of that from you and I hope you go up the learning curve and get more out of your hobby.  "Ideal CEMF" is nonsensical junk, period.  "An ideal voltage source cannot vary with time" is nonsensical junk.

MileHigh

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on May 30, 2016, 11:23:30 PM
For the ideal voltage source, that's your 150th bait and switch.  You should get a trophy for that or something.  You fought the idea that an ideal voltage source can vary in time repeatedly, and you pulled up the textbook definition as "proof" that an ideal voltage source cannot vary in time.  The fact that you are denying that fact with a bait and switch based around the choice of words is laughable.  We all know, your brain would sizzle and crackle and spit out hot embers if you simply said, "Sorry guys, I was way off on the ideal voltage source business and I wasted a lot of time."  What a joke.  Step up to the plate and be a man once in a while.

Do you remember perhaps about six or eight months ago some guy was on here for less than two weeks.  He taunted you, he mocked you, he demeaned you repeatedly.  He called you nasty names and insulted you.  He did it every single day he was on the forum.  Did you like it?  How would you like it if he stuck around for a full year and did it to you every single day?

But within two weeks he was gone.  And before he left he apologized to you and acknowledged what he did was wrong.  He was a complete jackass, but in the end owned up to his behaviour and acted like a man.  How about them apples?

And the reality for you on the technical side of things is we found out that you are not the equivalent of six months through an Electronics 001 course, it's more like you are 2 1/2 weeks through an Electronics 001 course and you have barely opened up your book.  So you can do nothing about that because it's "just a hobby," it's your choice.  But if I am involved with a thread that you are on you are not going to get special treatment from me and if you say daft nonsensical junk then you are going to be told that it's daft nonsensical junk.  We have had truckloads of that from you and I hope you go up the learning curve and get more out of your hobby.  "Ideal CEMF" is nonsensical junk, period.  "An ideal voltage source cannot vary with time" is nonsensical junk.

MileHigh

Your full of crap MH,and you know it.
As per usual,you leave half of everything out,because your to much of a coward  to admit when your wrong.
As i stated,an ideal voltage dose not change over time-regardless of the load. It only changes when the user determines that change. 300 post ago i stated this,but apparently you missed it--how convenient.

As far as my skills go-being very limited according to you,then stop being a coward,and take me up on my challenge. Of course,you wont-some horse shit excuse about--oh i dont build.

You just keep on taunting people until they bite back,and then you have one of your little baby tantrums,and start demanding apologies,and garenties that they will leave you alone--just like your doing with Mags now.

The only skill you have,can be anyone's,as the net has all that you know.
My skills are hands on,and can only be obtained in that manner.
Any time you want to take me on in actually building a device,you let me know. Until you can do so,then your words of wisdom mean nothing.

How about we see who can convert a universal motor to be the most efficient?,where we measure P/in ,and mechanical and ''electrical'' P/out.
You want to tell everyone here my electrical skills are basic--then take me on.
You want to say that past power measurements on such a device were wrong or 'some how'fake--then take me on.
When were both finished our modified motors,we will ship them to Poynt,and let him do the power measurements.
Give it your best shot MH ,and we'll see who has just basic 001 skills when it comes to electromagnetic/mechanical devices.

Lets get this show on the road MH,as i am no longer bound by restrictions.
Time for you to prove that you know more than me.

But i will even give you the edge MH--you may team up with anyone you like,get them to build your converted universal motor,and help you out as much as you need.

Lets discuss terms MH.
Lets see who can build the most efficient Rotary Transfomer ;)


Brad

SeaMonkey

Since it is possible to imagine, in the Fantasy World of
Theoreticals, (1) an Ideal Voltage Source which outputs a
constant DC ElectroMotive Force across any imagined
Load
, then it must also be possible to imagine

(2)  an Ideal AC Voltage Source

(3)  an Ideal RF Voltage Source

(4)  an Ideal Audio Signal Generator

(5)  an Ideal Function Generator

(6)  an Ideal Complex Wave Generator

etc., etc., etc...
8)

Therefore, within the context of Theoretical
Problem Solving, why not simply state within
each "problem" the type of Ideal Voltage Source
which is intended to be used in order to arrive at a
Theoretical Solution? :o

After all, isn't that consistent with the Scientific Method? ::)

Specifying clearly and unambiguously what the conditions
of the problem are? ::)

Unless of course, the alleged "problem" is really naught more
than a "head game" of trickery. ;)


MileHigh

Quote from: SeaMonkey on May 31, 2016, 02:45:17 AM

Specifying clearly and unambiguously what the conditions
of the problem are? ::)

Unless of course, the alleged "problem" is really naught more
than a "head game" of trickery. ;)

What a bunch of crap your posting is.  I can't believe you would post nonsense like that.  The question is straightforward and clearly expressed and unambiguous.  There were never any head games or trickery intended.

Here you are supposedly the guy that is "fighting to warn us of the NWO and the End Times" and what is implicit in that is "we have all been deceived" and "the truth will come out" and "all will be resolved in the battle between the forces of truth and good and the evil deceptive forces of trickery and deceit" BLA BLA BLA....

Right?

And you have the bloody nerve to come on and make a posting that makes you into a force of deception and trickery by falsely trying to suggest that some "evil trickery" is going on here.  Ironically, you are the purveyor of "deceit and evil trickery" by the totally disingenuous nonsensical posting that you just made.  Not only are you "out there" with many strange views, arguably someone with their "head screwed on backwards" but you come here and make a posting where you act exactly like the "bad guys" that you despise.  It's like you have your head "doubly screwed on backwards" with that posting.  You are acting exactly like the "shadowy guys" that you "warn" us about and despise.  Talk about "out of this world" irony.

Did I ruin your pulsations of pleasure?  Perhaps you need to read some Trotsky to reestablish some equilibrium.

Here, I stumbled across a YouTube guy that you will love.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX9977Q36-GvegkIt-3N5Ew/videos

I think you should "talk shop" with Rudolph of Germany, he comes from another galaxy.  He is waiting for the End Times.  The two of you will probably really hit it off.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on May 31, 2016, 01:17:53 AM
Your full of crap MH,and you know it.
As per usual,you leave half of everything out,because your to much of a coward  to admit when your wrong.
As i stated,an ideal voltage dose not change over time-regardless of the load. It only changes when the user determines that change. 300 post ago i stated this,but apparently you missed it--how convenient.

Brad

No, I am not full of crap at all.  One of the many ridiculous "problem student in the class" arguments that had to be made with you and others is that an ideal voltage source can do whatever you want it to do.  You had this ridiculous notion that it must be fixed and so that had to be argued out with you.  When you saw others agreeing with me you clammed right up and stopped forcing that nonsensical issue.  Instead of having the guts to say that you realized that you were wrong you just "magically reappeared" on the right side of the argument much later.

Talking tech with you has been a near-endless stream of irrational arguments because of your ignorance.  You hear something new and "make up your own rule" about that new thing and then it's another stupid battle with you to talk some sense into you.  This thread from the very get-go was like that, an endless stream of battling basic electronics vs. the electronics nonsense that you made up in your head.  This was all stuff that you should have been learning on your own starting six years ago, not to mention the six years worth of valuable and correct information that has been covered endless times on this forum that apparently made no impression on you at all and almost none of it sunk in.  Next time hopefully you will do better and not make up nonsense in your head first, but rather you will undertake to do the research yourself and inform and educate yourself properly.

MileHigh