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car energy consume improvements

Started by lancaIV, July 02, 2016, 07:40:03 AM

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lancaIV

For experiments :

https://www.google.com/search?q=vegan+electric+trike&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

48 Volt 22 Ah LEAD battery ,weight ?
https://www.akkuman.de/shop/4x-AGM-BLEI-AKKU-12V-22Ah-kompatibel-48V-SCOOTER-ROLEKTRO-5-ECO-CITY-PLUS-45-REC22
(12 V x 22 Ah )/6,2 Kg = 42,5 VAh/Kg nominal,DoD !
48 Volt x 22 Ah ~ 1056 VAh  'Enough for 90 Km drive range' !?

https://e-engine.de/tag/amprius-technologies/
500 VAh/Kg

The above 6,2 Kg x4 (12 V ea. to 48 V ) = 24,8 Kg x 500 VAh =  12 400 VAh
Enough for 90 Km  x 10-12 times drive range : 900-1080 Km !?
Improvements : range extender


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Citroen Ami lease plan condition  ( and probably etrike-car- investment share ) :

https://www.carwow.de/citroen/auto-news/1282/citroen-ami-2021-preise-technische-daten-und-verkaufsstart#gref
The Vegan eTrike assuming with  3600 € selling price,incl. VAT ( 3000 € comercial, without VAT)

750 € entrance (1 owner,1/2 = 375€ ea. 2-share-owner,1/3= 250 € ea. 3-share owner,.....and 7,5 € monthly fee (1 owner ),1/2,1/3,...
                 
Cheap,save and clean urban mobility

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Cloxxki

Anyone, raise your hand if you can read let alone understand the way Lanca posts. Then please explain me how to deal with that chaos.

Lanca, you're broadcasting, but are you on a frequency that's on anyone's radio?

lancaIV

In the search of the ' 10 000 Km drive range e-mobile,nonstop ' ( intercontinental,land/sea/air !)
Vegan eTrike + 500 VAh/Kg battery + improved rotorverter (Gordon James and Peter Rust and +++)~ 10 000 Km  ;)
City 40 Km•h velocity max. x 24 hours =  960 Km per day range

CloxxKI,AM or FM ? ;D 
Nonstop ? Relatively when as passengers humans ( biological-chemical input and output !)

Tschau,vale bene :)
OC

ramset

Takes a while to learn
And then you realize many contributions are
Way out of perspective ( or relevant)


Some actually totally detached from goals here ( mission statement)
And some very good!


Signal to noise ?
One man's noise is another man's signal ( open source vrs investor stuff )


One thing I would really ,really like to understand
Is
Lanca was involved in some magnet or ? Motor OU thingy
Big project?
Would be nice to read more (teach) about that!
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

lancaIV

Battery Technology R&D preview

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021231&CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1#
A solid state Quantum high Energy density Storage Or Retrieval device known as a quensor, and the trademark ENSOR(TM), having an energy density of about 1-15 kwhr/kg, comparable to gasoline, or more, is described
https://thundersaidenergy.com/downloads/lithium-ion-batteries-energy-density/
2023 :


Amprius comercial lithium battery : 450 Wh/Kg
CATL lithium battery  : https://newatlas.com/energy/catl-500-wh-kg-condensed-battery/
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/650_whkg_1400_whl_recharg_batt_new_era_elect_mobility_ymikhaylik_0.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiFif_b-4eBAxUWVKQEHSlLC0s4ChAWegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw0UGAfL01zE4Oraze1mrfBY

Lab lithium battery record : https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/25/chinese-researchers-announce-711-kwh-kg-lithium-battery/
https://thedriven.io/2023/04/03/scientists-hail-new-battery-with-4-times-energy-density-of-lithium-ion/
"With further development, we expect our new design for the lithium-air battery to also reach a record energy density of 1200 watt-hours per kilogram," said Curtiss. ​"That is nearly four times better than lithium-ion batteries."

Not only power2weight ratio,also the lifetime as charge cycle number  is important.
From nearly zero external charging to net zero external charge to 100% autonomous self-recharging mobile.

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p.s.: step by step doubling,trippling this benchmark,making common
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/greatest-distance-by-electric-vehicle-single-charge-(non-solar)
Vegan type experimental ,48 V x 22 Ah LEAD AGM battery ( 42,5 Wh/Kg) ~ 90 Km

A.
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15379

B.
42,5 Wh/Kg LEAD battery change to 500 Wh/Kg Lithium-/or Sodium battery

C.Conventional electric motor change to magnet array Halbach-type electric motor with sc-/or capacitive coils

gives


90 Km x Todorovic 3x = 270 Km x 10 times Lithium-/Sodium power per weight density = 2700 Km
x 2x electric motor consume improvement ( Nm per electric pulse)
= 5400 Km drive range
5400 Km / 1680 Km Guinness book world record
= first target reached,world-record trippling  !

External/on board battery recharge time
Observation :
https://www.log9materials.com/   1/2 hour full recharge

https://www.autocarindia.com/industry/bengaluru-based-exponent-energy-reveals-15-minute-fast-charging-tech-for-evs-428900

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GwmidLzSYFY

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5  12 V x 36 Ah for 32 Km drive range ~ 1350 Wh/100 Km,1-seater
compared
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-vegan-electric-self-charging-solar-tricycle--2#/(48 V x 22 Ah)/0,9 ~ 1175 Wh/100 km , 3-seater

A good platform for R&D experiments