Graham Gunderson's Energy conference presentation Most impressive and mysterious

[Spokane1]

All will be open sourced! For a small fee of only two million dollars !!


Welcome to the new definition of "Open Source", only 2 million dollars ! And overunity requires not only an apparatus, but also "training".  Training on how to get your own instruments to report overunity results, maybe? Training ... from someone who doesn't know why his system works? That gets a ROFL for sure.

Dear TinselKoala,

Your assessment is accurate. Graham did open source the technology for the duration of the conference. Then he got home and faced his financial situation, then recalled all the crap he received last year for his 1.02 OU presentation. So he changed his mind and decided he was going to make a buck with his new breakthrough and tell his landlord where to park it.

Saving the World may be a noble quest, but it doesn't pay the rent, feed the two young sons, or pay the tax man.

I suppose you have a legitimate argument, but this is the way it is going to be. Graham is not going to be joining any of these discussions or providing additional documentation.

We have about 70 photos, 10 pages of simple notes, some verbal commentary and a 1 hour lecture to come. This may or may not be enough material to do a functional reproduction, but it is a heck of a lot more than other OU technologies that have come and gone.

I have faith in Graham's work and have no doubt that it is worth the cost just to attempt to understand the principles demonstrated with this kind of apparatus.

You have a right to feel disappointed, and I don't blame you. I suppose others may feel the same way about the way things have turned out after a week.

I'm going to continue on. Check in now and then and see how things are going.

Spokane1

[TinselKoala]

All right, Spokane1, that is an answer.

Now that you are someone who seems to be familiar enough with Gunderson's work to talk about it, maybe you can also answer the question I asked earlier.

How is it that a system that draws "0.000 Watts" input, and produces some high COP value -- "infinity, but let's say around 50", still needs to be connected to its power supply in order to work?

Both sets of instruments agreed on the values being measured. From the warm up moment the unit started at 1.53 watts in and 9.43 watts out or a initial COP of 6.16. The load was a 12V automotive lamp that operated during the entire presentation. As time went on the COP improved an hour later the input wattage was down to zero (with four places of accuracy) with the output still at 9.5. That is a COP of infinity, but lets say around 50. I was in the front row to observe this. Graham reported that he has observed the input value go negative like -.25 watts in.

Do you believe these measurements and claims are accurate? If so, why can't the system simply be disconnected from the power supply?

[tinman]

All right, Spokane1, that is an answer.

Now that you are someone who seems to be familiar enough with Gunderson's work to talk about it, maybe you can also answer the question I asked earlier.

How is it that a system that draws "0.000 Watts" input, and produces some high COP value -- "infinity, but let's say around 50", still needs to be connected to its power supply in order to work?

Do you believe these measurements and claims are accurate? If so, why can't the system simply be disconnected from the power supply?

Perhaps it works like the human muscle,where it needs a signal of minute power,to create an action that produces watts of energy -as in,our brain sends tiny electrical impulses to the muscles,and the muscles contract,providing far more energy output than the signal that triggered the action.
So maybe the bulk of the energy is stored within the transformer it self,and only needs a small electrical signal from the mains to trigger the reaction?.

How ever,reading the information MH posted about GG's past,i doubt that anything will become of it,and it is as you stated--measurement error.
The  !for sale for 2 million dollars! seem to appear just at the right time


Brad

[poynt99]

Someone mentioned that not only has Gunderson measured 0W input, but at times the input power went negative. What immediately pops into my mind is that if he was measuring the input power properly to begin with with all probe polarities correct, the input power measurement should be negative anyway.

Would someone in-the-know be so kind as to draw out a simple block diagram of the input source, device, and output load, along with the measurement probe positions? If no one knows, perhaps Graham himself would be open to providing such a diagram (it wouldn't give away any secrets so why not?)?

[k4zep]

I've been playing with this a little and it looks like I can get a similar wave form with just using 36vdc chopped by a mosfet switch around 21.7kHz with a 33% duty cycle to a primary coil which has a 0.002uf capacitor connected in parallel tuned to resonance (21.7kHz).


Yellow is a x100 Voltage probe across primary coil, Blue is a Tektronic P6021 current probe on negative of primary coil, Red is the product (math) of V x I and Purple is the DC output of the secondary (after FWBR to a 27,000uf cap with 20 Ohm load).


Luc

Good morning Gotoluc,

Going to try this again, first post never showed up. Could you post a picture of the setup that made this waveforms.
Your description as to how it works and built is easy to understand.  Any description
of the exact construction of the coils/core/magnet assembly would really help.  Your device
is electrically so much simpler that Gundersons and the aux. cicuit to harvest the output pulse during the rest would be just as simple.
This is going to be my first try at replicating your circuit..

Respectfully

Ben K4ZEP