A PLACE FOR DEBATE

[Dingus Mungus]

All I can say for sure is that neither Mannix or the person he claims is SM were involved with any of the videos we've seen of the device. I can say this for sure because: if they were involved in any of those demos, the device would have been in a box under a sheet in another room. 

I'm going to continue to read these threads everyday even though it kills me to do so just to see where these two persons actually lead the group. I want to know just what they're trying to help us understand and what the group can accomplish after they understand what it is Mannix has been preaching for the last 6-8 months.

We've lost valuable members and are currently discrediting the device publicly...

I hope what ever it is you guys are rewarded with in the end is worth it.

Another unanswered question: What exactly is it Mannix is trying to help us understand?
The tipical bullshit response: How the device operates... 

[Grumpy]

Some things must be experienced to be understood.

If you are handed the plans - you build the device but you do not understand how it works - you can not tune it - you can not make adjustments - you can not make a larger or smaller one.

If you walk to path of the experimentalist, like SM, Tesla, and Marinov - then you will understand.

To move forward, you need a frequency source - can be audio (dual channel would be nice - one for each direction) - and you need  a "phase shifter"  - build one.

EDIT: EMDevices would be a big help with the circuits.

[allcanadian]

Hey Grumpy
Do you need to drop a bowling ball on your foot to understand it's all bad and really hurts? No
If the plans are complete, the fundamental process outlined, and operating parameters explained most people could build a working machine over time. As well a trouble-shooting guide would be handy, in which case the " you have to build it and experiment" theory holds no water. Do you have to build and experiment with your personal computer in order to use it? A computer is infinately more complex than the SM machine.
No one seems to want to ask the right nor the relevant questions, anyone saying everyone else could never understand this is probably delusional. They essentially declare themselves a god among men, for what? Building an simple electromechanical machine anyone could build given proper instruction. The stench of vanity surrounds quite a few of these inventors.

[Freedomfuel]

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[allcanadian]

Hey freedomfuel
In your post you quoted steven as saying-

"it was not MY TECHNOLOGY. I had no rights concerning it at all. It is under the control of the federal government for the benefit of the people of the United States".

If this is the case the US government has this and SM knows all about it.
Do you think if SM took this technology to the media, with working models the governments would have the balls to say it is top secret and cannot be used, and take him to court? The media and general public would overthrow and flog any government stupid enough to even mention such a thing. Can you imagine a senator saying such a thing? He would be living in a cardboard box faster than you can say"What just happened". It is common knowledge that should this OU technology ever go truly public , NO one would dare say anything to stop it, It would be political suicide.

This is a classical paradox- Man cannot speak out because he is threatened-But should the man ever speak out the persons making the threat can never follow through.