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FE in the news / new FE offer

Started by lancaIV, September 09, 2016, 08:23:04 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: lancaIV on September 10, 2016, 12:40:29 PM
Pardon moi,tagor,mais espanhol ce nest pas ma longue maternal,ne pas aussi paternal  !
Je compris ,mais quarente minutes :P 


Olli und concentration ! Hyper-activity ;)

Olá LancaIV,

No need to 'suffer' with translation, the same video exists in English too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp91ARt0C8I 

It is rather unfortunate that no real load test was performed. It means nothing if output voltage from generator is 2 or 3 times higher than input voltage to the motor... 

Regards,
Gyula

lancaIV

Good evening,gyula and
"Merci,beaucoup !"



I would "suffer" to have to translate the "40 minutes video conference" !


You are right,they did only tested the device under no load condition and will not have to let the device
examinated by their national patent office cause they only applied national for the "utility model" solution !
But this is only a temporarely question if they want to commercialize the invention !
It has to be functional or they will fail !


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Not beeing against the technology and this spanish project team I do not like to see the international patent right and right limits misused/abused :

MEV Technology, protected worldwide under Utility Model ES 1 141 381 Y, is a property of Felipe Peña Luengo and Vicente Lucia Latorre. Copying, manufacturing or distributing of MEV Technology is forbidden unless having the explicit consent of the owners. To get this consent, please contact us through email, contacto@energymev.org.

La  Tecnología MEV, protegida a nivel mundial a partir del modelo de utilidad ES 1 141 381 Y, es propiedad de Felipe Peña Luengo y de Vicente Lucia  Latorre. La copia,  fabricación o distribución de la Tecnología MEV está prohibida a menos que se tenga el consentimiento explícito de los propietarios. Para obtener este consentimiento, por favor, póngase en contacto con nosotros a través del correo electrónico contacto@energymev.org.

                                   wrong situation description :

If the MEV team only applied national as "utility model/modelo de utilidad ES........" and not EP/WIPO-wide
they can not claim to have their invention worldwide=a nivel mundial  protected=protegida and
this only the commercial market related ,
the commercial patent property right(PCT-Trade Act) is in and for private use not existent !

Nobody needs a licence to copy this neither worldwide nor in Spain,if this device is in off-grid use !
                               But they -MEV- can f.e. sell DIY-plans or kits !


Or they make a technical breakthrough and get the possibility to apply for worldwide rights !

tagor

Quote from: lancaIV on September 10, 2016, 12:40:29 PM
Pardon moi,tagor,mais espanhol ce nest pas ma longue maternal,ne pas aussi paternal  !
Je compris ,mais quarente minutes :P 


Olli und concentration ! Hyper-activity ;)



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        Fundación M.E.V.il y a 3 semainesHola Antonio. En estas pruebas no hemos probado la potencia generadora, sino certificar lo que está patentado. Para medir esa potencia necesitaríamos poner carga al MEV. Haremos pruebas de generación con los nuevos prototipos en los que estamos trabajando en estos momentos y os informaremos. Un saludo

ils ont fait les tests sans charge pour valider le brevet
maintenant ils vont faire d'autres tests avec charge

lancaIV


lancaIV

Quote from: tagor on September 11, 2016, 12:53:11 AM


ils ont fait les tests sans charge pour valider le brevet
maintenant ils vont faire d'autres tests avec charge


Hola Pablo. Estas pruebas se han hecho sin carga, por lo que no podemos hablar aquí de intensidad. Es como si tenemos un enchufe al que no enchufamos nada, por lo que la corriente (intensidad) no circula. Los miliamperios de salida se deben simplemente a la carga que supone la bobina propia del motor. Lo que sí hemos probado es que es posible construir un motor generador, y que este prototipo multiplica el voltaje más del triple. Estamos ahora fabricando el primer motor MEV no adaptado (sino construido desde cero) y con el haremos las pruebas de rendimiento generador


motor-generator back-emf-circuit : http://electrifyingtimes.com/trinity_motor.html At its current levels, the PowerMax system returns up to 85% of energy required to run the motor---under full load---to run an electric car.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=31&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040805&CC=US&NR=2004150289A1&KC=A1

The best explanation, according to Trinity CEO, Gordon James, is that the motor engineering community over the last one hundred years has focused on 'the work' that a motor produces at the shaft. 'Work' refers to the amount of horse power that the rotating motion of the shaft can bring to bear to run pumps, condensers, fans and all the other devices that motors make 'work.' Engineers view this 'work' as related to the amount of electric power that is consumed in order to reach 1HP at the rotating shaft.
For Example: 20 Amps @ 110Volts of Power generally equates to approximately 1 HP in a typical AC motor.
                                                       ~                                            3/1

no load/ load : up to 1000% difference
http://www.inpama.com/index.php?content=invention&id=1073 as no load-energy buster
But the average consumption of each phase for the modified motor is 0.22 A
At the maximum load for the modified motor consumption up to 2.5 A for each phase