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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic Gravity Wheel Attempt

Started by FreeEnergy, November 23, 2006, 10:26:59 PM

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peter_schmalenbach

Hi FreeEnergie,

you have to consider the lever laws.

Already in your first picture the device tilt to left (anticlockwise).

3 balls on the left side and 1 ball on the right side.

It cannot turn clockwise.

Regards
Peter
If anybody thinks that a perpetuum mobile is impossible, then he should not pester an inventor who is just now building one.



gyulasun

Quote from: FreeEnergy on November 24, 2006, 07:15:12 PM
answer me this if i take out all magnets what would be the dead point of equilibrium of the wheel?

Hi,

My answer is: there can be two dead points, either tilt to the left or tilt to right, depending on where the torque received at the starting push is consumed by friction and air resistance.  So when the wheel stops there will always be 3 balls on the left and 1 ball on the right or 1 ball on the left and 3 balls on the right.

And in case of having the magnets at the places you drew, the same thing will happen but the wheel will come to a stop rapidly wrt the no magnets case,  assuming the same pushing force on the wheel like in the no magnet case.  As I had indicated this would be so due to the attracting force of the magnets when the balls were to escape from them they could not move immediately away but only a little later when gravity could defeat the attraction force.

I still cannot understand what you think you gain by using the magnets?  In your wheel setup the magnets just hinder rotation by retarding the movements of the balls in the horizontal arms. This is what I think.  It is a very good idea to build this wheel model for yourself and prove me (or others here) wrong.

rgds
Gyula