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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic Gravity Wheel Attempt

Started by FreeEnergy, November 23, 2006, 10:26:59 PM

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gyulasun

Hi,

Strangely enough, I think the magnets just work against your wheel's rotation by retarding the rolling of the balls towards the center when any of the horizontal arms continue to form a slope on which the balls would start accelerating towards the center. 

I think this by removing all the magnets first and imagine the movement of the balls while you rotate the wheel by hand (giving a small pushing force and let it rotate). What happens is the wheel would stop due to normal friction and air resistance after a few turns because of the fully symmetrical structure.  Now you place the magnets and again push the wheel a little, what happens is the magnets will try to keep the balls near to them till they are defeated by gravity: this retards the balls in the near horizontal arms and makes the wheel stop rapidly...

Sorry but this is how I see it.  If I fully misunderstood something, then please explain in detail how you think about the role of the magnets. It is ok that: quote "(the magnet has to be strong enough to only be able to roll the ball horizontally and not lift vertically. remember it takes more energy to vertically lift the ball than to roll to the side horizontally)" unquote,  but in this setup it is just a drawback I think.

Gyula

gyulasun

One more thing: the topmost ball should not be at the position you drew, it should still stay near the right side magnet in the (upper) horizontal tube, considering the wheel position you show in the picture and assuming counterclockwise rotation.

Gyula

peter_schmalenbach

Please look here for some tips:

http://www.hp-gramatke.net/perpetuum/english/page0020.htm

But it seems that it doesn't work.

Best regards
Peter Schmalenbach
If anybody thinks that a perpetuum mobile is impossible, then he should not pester an inventor who is just now building one.