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Overunity Machines Forum



TD replications

Started by Floor, November 18, 2016, 11:14:23 AM

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norman6538

OK, here is where I am now. I have not gotten good measurements anywhere near those posted by Floor. But basically if you take 2 like mags and place one flat and the other vertical at the center of the flat magnet there will be attraction to one end and repel to the other end and since it is directly in the middle you can slide the vertical magnet side to side easily - so what. That will become the sticky spot escape. So remove the vertical magnet out of range and then slide it toward the attracted side as described above and it will attract and slide toward the center and onward to the far side but stop it in dead center where it is balanced and can easily slid away escape the sticky spot and then you can repeat what I just described and thus free attraction and work out and almost free extraction from the sticky spot so it can be repeated again.

The real measurements are not in grams/mass but in work ie mass x distance.
I am refining those measurements.

Norman

Floor

Quote from: norman6538 on April 13, 2021, 06:05:37 PM
OK, here is where I am now. I have not gotten good measurements anywhere near those posted by Floor. But basically if you take 2 like mags and place one flat and the other vertical at the center of the flat magnet there will be attraction to one end and repel to the other end and since it is directly in the middle you can slide the vertical magnet side to side easily - so what. That will become the sticky spot escape. So remove the vertical magnet out of range and then slide it toward the attracted side as described above and it will attract and slide toward the center and onward to the far side but stop it in dead center where it is balanced and can easily slid away escape the sticky spot and then you can repeat what I just described and thus free attraction and work out and almost free extraction from the sticky spot so it can be repeated again.

The real measurements are not in grams/mass but in work ie mass x distance.
I am refining those measurements.

Norman

Ok Norman, I got ya.

Mass like in grams or kilograms of mass or weight or force .....
times the distance moved.. cool.

Right on.

Floor

First measurements.

Less than 5 grams. 

5 grams is roughly the threshold of my devices sensitivity.

Below 5 grams and I cant reliably measure without a lot of effort / repeat measurements. 

I have to tap on my bench to get a sliding action if the weight or force is
below 5 grams.

I can do that but lets just let 5 grams stand as the input force.

That way I am fudging a little toward a    non over unity    result.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

First measurements

Pass through, while the magnets are centered, one on edge over the broad face of the
other. 

The force is considered as a constant 5 grams over the entire 1 and 7/8 inches.

1 inch = 25.4 millimeters

25.4 millimeters = 0.0254 of a meter
... ... ... ... ... ...
7/8 of an inch = 0.875 inches

0.875 of a inch = 22.225 millimeters

22.225 mm = 0.02222 meters
... ... ... ... ... ...
1 and 7/8 inches =  0.04762 of a meter                                                                                       
... ... ... ... ... ...
1 gram of weight (on earth) =  0.0098066500286389 newtons of force

5 grams of weight (on earth) = 0.0490332501431945 newtons of force

                newtons of force time meters = joules of energy or work.

0.049 newtons x  0.04762 meter = 0.00233 joules of work.

                                                 first result is 0.00233 joules.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Been busy today.
  I  should have the rest of the measurements by end of tomarrow.

   best wishes
        floor

Floor

@ all readers

I respectfuly request that other members refrain from
posting in this topic until norman6538 and I have
completed this measurment process.

   best wishes
        floor

Floor

Measurements of gotoluc's device / floor's variation

Parameters part 1

The limit of sensitivity of floor's test bench.
                      video @
         https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6va1an


           floor