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Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor

Started by Jack Noskills, February 09, 2017, 07:41:34 AM

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Belfior

Quote from: AlienGrey on December 17, 2017, 09:58:13 AM
looking at this if you want zero inductance you need to wind it like this see pic
results in zero magnetic field.

Don't get me wrong but but what are all the heat sinks for ? and doesn't the LOPT get really hot in that circuit ?
I mean I don't want to throw a spanner in the works but aren't you supposed to use a ramp
driver so the spark charges up then whack! it arks across causing a disruptive spike ?

Ignore me if you want most do  ;D

Allen

How do we know what we want? I mean Jack's pdf says the wires are charged like a cap with like charge (positive + positive.) The diaelectric is then holding the charge. Do we want zero inductance on it? If it works just with Coulombs law then yes I guess, but is that really possible? I will copy his rig and do the same testing. There will be an effect or there is no effect

Belfior

Quote from: PolaczekCebulaczek on December 17, 2017, 07:47:38 AM
Does anyone successfully replicated this negative inductor  http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/

I tried and it did not work, i think that theory behind it is wrong, there is magnetic field between wires, its tiny but still there, its not canceled out to 0.

I think I need to read that page a couple of more times...

Belfior

Quote from: PolaczekCebulaczek on December 17, 2017, 07:47:38 AM
Does anyone successfully replicated this negative inductor  http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/

I tried and it did not work, i think that theory behind it is wrong, there is magnetic field between wires, its tiny but still there, its not canceled out to 0.

Ok now this would kinda make sense to me, if the two aluminium cylinders are connected on the top with a cap. Then charge the inner core with positive and and the outer core with negative charge. In my mind that means the cores are an extension of that cap.

Then you got a coilcap of sorts wrapped around the outer negative coil and they would get induction from the negative charge. But when the cap is charged nothing moves. This means you have to have like a spark gap that discharges that cap to ground also at the top. Then the charge process would start again. I can't see it working like in the pictures without something like this.

I wonder if you wind the "negative inductor" coil like Jack does. So the coil is open ended, but your terminals are one at the top and one at the bottom. Then you would have an open coil that is charged with like charge (both with negative charge)

PolaczekCebulaczek

Quote from: Belfior on December 17, 2017, 12:03:06 PM
Ok now this would kinda make sense to me, if the two aluminium cylinders are connected on the top with a cap. Then charge the inner core with positive and and the outer core with negative charge. In my mind that means the cores are an extension of that cap.

Then you got a coilcap of sorts wrapped around the outer negative coil and they would get induction from the negative charge. But when the cap is charged nothing moves. This means you have to have like a spark gap that discharges that cap to ground also at the top. Then the charge process would start again. I can't see it working like in the pictures without something like this.

I wonder if you wind the "negative inductor" coil like Jack does. So the coil is open ended, but your terminals are one at the top and one at the bottom. Then you would have an open coil that is charged with like charge (both with negative charge)


discharging  cylinder cap is not necessary, this negative inductor is supposedly using relativistic electromagnetism theory to produce magnetic field as BACK EMF, but it does not, maybe relativistic electromagnetism theory is wrong or the B field is not totally canceled out, or both.(I think to cancel magnetic field to 0 the dielectric must be at 0 thickness)

Belfior

back EMF from what? There has to be a break for back EMF to occur.

Maybe you could get that coil to charge capacitively, but why anything else should happen I don't see it