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Some Bifilar coil experiments

Started by evostars, April 11, 2017, 04:31:06 PM

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evostars

Quote from: Dog-One on April 19, 2017, 08:38:36 PM
I'm with Evo on this one.  In one of Eric Dollard's videos he goes into the extreme complexity of a transformer winding, typically multi-layered.  For any single segment of wire, you have varying magnetic flux all around, some counter and some the same, each with different intensities.  That's just the magnetic portion.  Then we add in all the non-conductive spaces where the dielectric fields are.  It becomes a complete mess to calculate.  Modern day engineers attempt to wash all that complexity away with turns ratios and coupling factors, but that's not what is really going on at the level of the fields.  I didn't even bring in the effect at the atomic layer of the physical materials used and how resistance plays into things.  Everything matters.  You can't just simplify it all away.  There's a symphony of forces at work in these coils.  You have to be able to see it all in your minds eye to have any hope of manipulating it correctly.

What video was that Dog-One? I remember reading about the transformer windings, but can remember seeing him talk about it. I would Love to see it.

I just tested my 3 new bifilar pancake coils. They have bigger capacitance (measured between the 2 windings when not connected). and as predicted, the resonant frequency is lower, than my other 3 coils (with lower capacitance, and higher resonant frequency).

Magluvin

Quote from: Magluvin on April 18, 2017, 04:40:07 PM
Considering what I said above I was thinking of the possibility of the cap and inductor in parallel with a resistor in series with that, but it still is the inductor that is resistive, and the current from the input needs to go through the inductor to charge the cap, so Im sticking with what I said above.

Looking at how the series bifi reacts to input at resonance it does look to be a parallel equivalent event. But maye there is a strange combo in there that we dont realize yet. Some things are coming down the path that may enlighten us.

Here are sim shots below  The first circuit from the left is series, second is parallel and the third is what you presented as parallel.

Even the second one is not correct, refer to the 3rd image.  But if I connect the power supply in the 3rd circuit the sim locks and says cant have 0ohm with the power in connected directly to the cap, as can be seen in the sec pic.  So in the 3rd pic it should be an accurate presentation of a parallel circuit where the cap and the coil have their own resistances. Not poking fun or faulting, but where ever that came from it is not correct.

Mags

Mags

Magluvin

Also having the resistor in parallel with the other components, if it were a low value it would take on wasted current from the input inspite of the other components.

Mags

teslonian


I looked back a couple posts and couldn't figure out what the subject matter actually is except maybe what the topic title suggests, which is experiments on bifilar coils. Well here's an eBook that explains what we can do with bifilar coils that hasn't been explained anywhere else before that I can see so far.


http://eternalmotor.blogspot.com/p/genesis-of-new-energy-source_32.html


Magluvin

Quote from: teslonian on April 20, 2017, 04:49:02 PM
I looked back a couple posts and couldn't figure out what the subject matter actually is except maybe what the topic title suggests, which is experiments on bifilar coils. Well here's an eBook that explains what we can do with bifilar coils that hasn't been explained anywhere else before that I can see so far.


http://eternalmotor.blogspot.com/p/genesis-of-new-energy-source_32.html

This is what I get when I try that link....

Mags