A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome

[ARMCORTEX]

For me, I believe that as we reach 23-24 years old, smart people like zephir and others we would like to get instant scientific recognition and be millionnaire and forever safe in our overunity hiding lair somewhere in the mountains.

But, as time passes, you start realizing that you might be fucking up in life. Its best to concentrate on the simple things in life and be good at that, work for a company and humble yourself. Either it be software or engineering or simply machining, something in these activities makes it as satisfying work.

I believe overunity researchers need to humble themselves vs science and that its as as easy as we originally tought, some of us have difficulty with hard math so we would be satisfied by instantly rebalancing things in our favor. The world is funcitonning well enough that we can purchase energy needs from expert engineer companies, who will provide us with 120 volt power for our applicance, and if we simply need to work to purchase energy needs its best to be just a regular guy and not an overunity researcher. Time is money and if its wasted on foolish things we are not optimizing our time on earth.

That is all, I am abandonning overunity because Its not needed.

[h20power]

Stanley Meyers... That name recalls me much waste of time.

Your friends gave up and so have I.

Just as they banned you I would also have banned you.

They did nothing wrong, they saw the "light". You say you are in a bad mood and "ARMCORTEX HAS CAUSED ME TO QUESTION"...

LOL... You are the guy who has been clinging to Meyers longer than everybody I know, are you just stubborn? brilliant? Tenacious? crazy?

If you made such a good injector and it worked. Just like Herman P Anderson and Stanley Meyers, I havent seen
any replications. with 30k I can go farther, I used to tell people to just give me their money in the days as well, that I would build it
for them, I think I had idiots like you in my way as well thus I quit.

When are these old guys with illusions of grandeur gonna tell somebody about it and it will get replicated. Small injector will it see the light od day? Its certainly attractice technology, but in the end...we face possibility of bullshit. I would like to see more proof about Herman Anderson.

I would like to believe that Herman P anderson injector and Meyers injector would work, I am optimist, I am awaiting them
or somebody to test if it turns into a self runner.

At the time, I was trying to make an electrolyser as it seemed more of an easier test than injector motor, wich makes noise for night work. To me it was clear, either the brother of a fraud is not worth following, or either Stan was a good willed fool who had also illusions of grandeur but did manage to progress heavily and his brother surpassed him since he said he did.

All this time investment now stands on very poor foundation thus I pulled out. Have I had the investment shipped to me I would have progressed. I tried to convince some to do it my way but it was too late for them, their minds were lost.

I know you would have banned me too as you have the same type of power trip personality I'd even be willing to call you a Max Miller clone but you far worse than he is. But I do hear you on the working at your own pace as I do that all the time. People that sit around doing nothing like to speed up my pace but they never contribute to the case other than to try and make me upset most of the time. Unlike you I have built a lot of my CAD designs as they are not just on a computer program or drawing anymore for they are in the world of the real. Just like Meyer stated in one of his video people like us have to be somewhat thick skinned for most people will try hard to get in your way for they are use to the crabs in a bucket mentality, but thankfully not all people are like that.


As for the 23-24 year old's perhaps they like the idea of going from rags to riches but as long as they don't take your approach I'm fine with them. Since I am a half century old I guess I am just a stubborn old man now but since I work at my own pace based on what I figure out through experimentation and build things in an affordable manor I guess I'm not so much the foolish type. I knew starting out that to make use of the scientific method was a long process but I have lived long enough to understand that following that method often times yields good results one just has to have patients.


On Zephir I guess I should take a look at what's going on so that I know the full story as I have no idea what he/she is up too and/or doing. But right now isn't a good time as I am truly focusing on the task at hand now. Being humble is tough at times but doable as most of the time it's just a choice to be mean, like you, or to be nice to people like the rest of us. At first I offered you some sound advice but you are like those 23-24 year-old's that you speak of wanting to take the easy road and not work for it like everyone else has to which I thought was being very nice. But your response of wanting to spend other people's money was very troubling. Then you had an attitude like people owed you something and should just fork over the cash to you as you, without humility, demanded it of them. I am surprised that you could even bring yourself to actually type out the word HUMILITY given how much of a jerk you have shown yourself to be towards people.


As for your giving up on Meyer's technology that is music to my ears as the world doesn't need greedy people like you behind a disruptive technology such as this. These disruptive type technologies need people that can honestly care about others outside of their inner circle of friends and you are not that type of a person, agreed? Trust me I am not the only one that views you this way as it's just how you have come across to all of us in this forum. Lets face it you are not a nice man as your parents failed in raising you to care for anyone outside of yourself, but like I have said in the past it doesn't always have to be this way as you can change if you want to.

[Zephir]

That is all, I am abandonning overunity because Its not needed.

This is indeed your full right, but my experience is, once the price of oil jumps above 200 USD/barrel, then the risk of global nuclear war becomes imminent, because the geopolitical situation will become way too unstable. The so-called renewables increase the fossil fuel consumption on background, because they require huge amount of raw sources - and they cannot provide permanent solution of energetic crisis. Now the situation between Russia and USA becomes unstable again, because Russia is the largest exporter of oil. The war in Syria already did a large damage to Europe because of immigration crisis.

Therefore if you have a children, you should bother about overunity quite a lot - just from trivial self-preservation reason. The ignorance of cold fusion and overunity already did a large damage on civilization and it was the primary reason of both world wars. Every ignorance comes at its own cost.

as time passes, you start realizing that you might be fucking up in life

On the contrary, with my increasing age I do realize, that the forming family and getting a job cannot be only achievement of life. For me even the people, who raised children successfully without contribution to progress wasted their lives, because the pure reproduction will not move us forward as a civilization. It just consumes the resources, which aren't infinite. We are destroying or life environment step after step, despite we are willing to admit it or not. Therefore the overunity research is also important with respect to protection of nature and life environment for our children. But the research of overunity can be also a big scientific motivation and fun. For me it's a scientific research in its crystalline pure inquisitive form, in which every of you can actively participate and become a frontier of progress in this way.

I believe that as we reach 23-24 years old, smart people like zephir and others we would like to get instant scientific recognition and be millionnaire and forever safe in our overunity hiding lair somewhere in the mountains.

You would die way before its first replication, not to say acceptation. The verification of heliocentric model has been delayed by 160 years, the replication of overunity in electrical circuit has been delayed 145 years (Cook 1871), cold fusion finding 90 years (Panneth/Petters 1926), Woodward drive 26 years, EMDrive 18 years and room superconductivity finding by 45 years (Grigorov 1984).

Why the hell are you believing, you would be recognized and celebrated faster? The human ignorance has no limits and its spans multiple centuries. And you just illustrated one of mechanism, in which this ignorance works.

[Zephir]

your response of wanting to spend other people's money was very troubling

I'm not sure, what are you talking about here. For me the overunity research is human activity like any other and it can be vastly optimized in its current state. The mainstream science still fucks this branch of research, so that we must help themselves. We must organize the exchange of information better, we must organize our experiments better and we must get rid of trolls, who are boycotting this effort - all at once. The clueless twaddling at anonymous forum doesn't work well  - it actually converted the overunity.com into a brake of further progress. The western word (which drove the overunity research in the past) became decadent - now the private companies and anonymous Russian and Asian guys got more progressive in it, than this western forum.

[ARMCORTEX]

Dont be crazy now zephir. Taking life decisions on world war 3 and overunity is very up there in crazytown.

Your odds of achieving overunity are quite low, and the odds of world war 3 is pretty low also, its all fearmongering.

You should prepare to for eventual normal future without world war 3 and without overunity like normal person.