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Overunity Machines Forum



Testatika small machine testbed

Started by Steven Dufresne, April 21, 2005, 08:51:24 PM

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Motorcoach1

@Steve , thank you for the nice note. been back over to the site and looking over your work on the disks. I have the stock to make the 2 disks in clear and black. I have a few bearings for the center also. will start the the mounts monday. Mike

Steven Dufresne

Hi Mike,
The problem I have with building a full blown testatika is figuring out what to build since I don't know how it works. So instead I focus on experimenting with what parts might be tapping into an energy source. That's why I focus on the pots (Paul Baumann's term for the big cans) or different types of disks or the magnets as it could be any one or all of these. Currently I'm experimenting with adding an ultra high frequency to horseshoe magnets as that seems to be the goal of the Linden experiment:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/lindenexp.htm
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/lindentests1.htm

I have seen Paul Potter's ideas but I have doubts that his electron cascade idea can be the energy source as that would mean the large amount of energy that the 3kW machine is producing is coming from redirected energetic free electrons in the air. I could be wrong since it's just my gut feeling, but I don't think there's that much constantly available.

Regarding Peter's other thread here, Peter and I have talked quite a bit elsewhere. Though I don't think his use of triboelectric effect is applicable since that involves physical contact between the disks I do like the use of triboelectric material as that gives you one disk that is initially charged. This would act as an initial HV source. Directly as a result of Peter suggesting this I did a quick experiment with this in mind and it turned out quite well:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/276disksg2vinyl1.htm

You say you're ready to start on the disks. Can I ask what your plan is?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

karl

Steve,
some time ago I was asking you @rimstar about your opinion to introduce the electrophorus principle as a main principle also in history.
My demonstrator is tested and there are some good results whiche gives me further insights to the electrophorus.
The electrophorus in an rotational state (es sectors) or in a slightly vibratory state (up and down without touching the dipole surface) will generate a AC current. also when loaded with low ohmic resistors as a nulb in plasmastate.
There is no need for a spark at all.
Connect a small bulb out of a voltage checker (Ne?) continiously between the upper surface of the mover and the metal foil which lies under the rubbed record and make only slight movements in each direction?s-> No sparks but nearly continuous current through the bulb.
The charge is conserved!
No connection to earth required!
Move it as long as you want, every time you are changing the capacity you are directing the current, without collecting it in masses, through the neon bulb which reacts promptly with a glow discharge.
Amazing experiment, worse to do, no starting charges or phases needed, ever constant in function.
In the next step we'll have a look at the forces which acts to the moving parts.
A fullsymmetric or a assymmetric device is possible.
I come back to hyde patent and have a look at the stator disks which should be preloaded.
You can compare this forceless (force canceling due to constructive features) generator with an pos/neg electrophorus.
You are able to make 2 disks out of different materials to get a plus and a minus influencer.
Let them work together instead of against.
Hyde proposed 10% of the output is used to drive a ac (induction motor?) or small dc motor which is coupled to the rotor(s).
No significant losses due to backdrag or airresistence (use vacuum for maximal performance).
No rotating brushes or coals only wires.
Have also a look again on the simplified decouple cuircuit (AC) and the step down DC-Version.
Verry interesting insights may occour when combining the elektrophorus principle with the hyde machine.

I attach the patent for the simplicity of the situation.

Best wishes
Karl

hartiberlin

Hi Steven,
have you tested to pulse with High Voltage some lightly radiocative quartz crystals ?

I guess they just pulse HV bursts onto these quartz crystals to release exited beta decay
and this is collected in the leyden jars.
All machines have some crystals in them.
In the small machines the crystals are  at the front, where the coils are wound around them and the mesh
metals are in front of it and in the big 3KW machine they had mountain crystal stones
in the leyden jars at the backside of the machines.
I was told this by Stefan Marinov, whom I was in contact with andwho visited also Methernitha
and had a look into all the machines.

Also when I was there at Methernitha in Linden in 1989 I was told that the secret is
in the crystals,which I did not understand at this time, but today it is pretty clear,
how they do it...

As some other researchers have shown, that you can excite beta decay by RF high voltage bursts,
just try this and see, how much energy you can gain from exciting a beta decay crystal with RF high voltage bursts.

Put it in a lyden jar or simular capacitor to capture the fast high energy beta decay electrons to charge up this capacitor...

Good luck.

Best regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

TheOne

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 25, 2007, 12:04:37 AM
Hi Steven,
have you tested to pulse with High Voltage some lightly radiocative quartz crystals ?

I guess they just pulse HV bursts onto these quartz crystals to release exited beta decay
and this is collected in the leyden jars.
All machines have some crystals in them.
In the small machines the crystals are  at the front, where the coils are wound around them and the mesh
metals are in front of it and in the big 3KW machine they had mountain crystal stones
in the leyden jars at the backside of the machines.
I was told this by Stefan Marinov, whom I was in contact with andwho visited also Methernitha
and had a look into all the machines.

Also when I was there at Methernitha in Linden in 1989 I was told that the secret is
in the crystals,which I did not understand at this time, but today it is pretty clear,
how they do it...

As some other researchers have shown, that you can excite beta decay by RF high voltage bursts,
just try this and see, how much energy you can gain from exciting a beta decay crystal with RF high voltage bursts.

Put it in a lyden jar or simular capacitor to capture the fast high energy beta decay electrons to charge up this capacitor...

Good luck.

Best regards, Stefan.

hey hartiberlin,

This is not dangerous to manipulate this kind of quartz? also what quartz crystals you are talking about?