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what happens between a teslacoil the battery the incadescent bulb and the ground

Started by woopy, June 29, 2017, 09:35:22 AM

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blueplanet

All i can say is, the whole civilization of this date has been brain-washed too much by the text-book knowledge.

forest

You should more listen to TeslaScientific. I agree 100%. This is single wire transmission line, or at least 95% of it like Tesla stated. The main confusion is that tesla device can be used both to create single wire transmission of this special waves and to radiate radio frequency waves.


It's not that easy to duplicate Tesla's findings - TeslaScientific  please : show us all information to replicate your device (maybe in smaller scale if possible) or the confusion would take next 100 years.


How you guys would be able to replicate Kapanadze overunity devices without replication of Tesla's findings ? Tesla stated clearly he invented a way to capture and use ambient energy.

TeslaScientific

Quote from: forest on July 06, 2017, 08:21:54 AM
You should more listen to TeslaScientific. I agree 100%. This is single wire transmission line, or at least 95% of it like Tesla stated. The main confusion is that tesla device can be used both to create single wire transmission of this special waves and to radiate radio frequency waves.


It's not that easy to duplicate Tesla's findings - TeslaScientific  please : show us all information to replicate your device (maybe in smaller scale if possible) or the confusion would take next 100 years.


How you guys would be able to replicate Kapanadze overunity devices without replication of Tesla's findings ? Tesla stated clearly he invented a way to capture and use ambient energy.

Thank you forest. I'd agree with what you said too. It can be used in both ways. I've already posted this but apparently some have an allergic reaction to reading what Tesla had to say:

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an antenna circuit.  These requirements must be fulfilled, whether you transmit by currents of conduction, or whether you transmit by electromagnetic waves.  You want high potential currents, you want a great amount of vibratory energy; but you can graduate this vibratory energy.  By proper design and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth.  That is what I am doing.  Or you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. . . . The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method.  I am not producing radiation with my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. . . . In my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that the energy is radiated.  It is not radiated; it is conserved.

That coil design is available on my web site:

http://www.teslascientific.com/product/colorado-springs-magnifying-transmitter-scale-model-design-sheet/

Or the original design and all the details are in Colorado Springs Notes. But the basic effect is the same with every coil, but as Tesla points out in the quote above, a proper (optimised) design will yield the most desirable results. There's also a free calculator on the web site for Eric Dollard's Crystal Radio Initiative coils, those would work too. But I think the problem is more a lack of listening to what Tesla said...

Ernst from Energetic Forum has been doing some good work too, I don't have a direct link to the document he published but the link is somewhere in the description on one of his videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMage00000/videos

tinman

Quote from: TeslaScientific on July 05, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
The capacitance doesn't couple any energy. Putting a small capacitor across the bulb would do the same. It's only a "load" that the energy will reflect from. Why should the energy flow through the filament and heat it up to produce light?   just like the Bell Labs video shows. The bulb filament happens to be at some point along that transmission line, so the oscillating energy is flowing through it, and so it lights. No "ground" or "return loop" or "capacitive coupling" necessary. The "ground" is the one and only, live terminal.

Inconvenient fact #1: Capacitive coupling depends on the capacitance. The capacitance depends on the distance. Unfortunately for some speculations and hypotheses, the distance from the coil makes no difference whatsoever. Hence the capacitance makes no difference whatsoever. Hence it is not capacitive coupling.

Inconvenient fact #2: Radiated energy is governed by the inverse square law. 1/distance squared. Double the distance, quarter the power. I double the distance, and I get the same amount of power. Why? Because the energy is only going through the wire.

Even if Tesla himself told you what was happening, someone out there would still argue back and tell him that he's wrong.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1908-00-00.htm

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/famous-scientific-illusions

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

QuoteWhen the bulb filament is the end of the transmission line, of course it doesn't light, why should it?

Because if current could be delivered to a load via one single wire,then that current should be able to be delivered to that load,regardless of where that load is placed along that single wire.

QuoteIt definitely has nothing to do with capacitive coupling. It IS a ONE WIRE SINGLE POLE system.

But your statement above say's  that one wire cannot light the bulb unless--Quote:When you put a terminating capacitance AFTER the filament, now the energy flows THROUGH the filament, and it lights.

That is correct. There needs to be some form of plate after the bulb in order for it to light--that is the conductor acting as one capacitor plate.

Quote100% NOT capacitive coupling. It's absolutely based on the fact that the energy is reflecting back and forth within the terminating bounds of the transmission line,

The fact that you need anything after the bulb,in order for the bulb to light,is proof beyond doubt that it is capacitive coupling.

Nature it self shows us this with lightning.
One of the plates is the ground,and the other is the clouds. When the potential is high enough,the discharge arc takes place-over fare greater distances than you can demonstrate with your systems.

So once again,you need some form of plate or antenna !after! the bulb,in order for the bulb to light,and so,the bulb is being lit due to capacitive coupling,and not by current flowing back and forth along a single conductor.

Whether you want to believe it or not,in order for current to flow,there must be a path for it to follow.

Please read,so as you may understand what is happening,and stray from giving wrong information.
I have highlighted the part you are missing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line

At the end of the 19th century, Nikola Tesla demonstrated that by using an electrical network tuned to resonance it was possible to transmit electric power using only a single conductor, with no need for a return wire. This was spoken of as the "transmission of electrical energy through one wire without return".[1][2]

In 1891, 1892, and 1893 demonstration lectures with electrical oscillators before the AIEE at Columbia College, N.Y.C., the IEE, London, the Franklin Institute, Philadelphia, and National Electric Light Association, St. Louis, it was shown that electric motors and single-terminal incandescent lamps can be operated through a single conductor without a return wire. Although apparently lacking a complete circuit, such a topology effectively obtains a return circuit by virtue of the load's self-capacitance and parasitic capacitance

So once again--the bulb lights because of the capacitive coupling.


Brad

tinman

Here is another video showing a single wire transmission line delivering a lot of power to a load-in this case,an electric motor-and then an additional load of incandescent bulbs  ;).

Please pay attention at 2:50


Brad