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Cathodic ray Emmisions. i need a plain expanation to a plain question.

Started by baroutologos, September 16, 2017, 11:32:11 AM

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Void

and yet, somehow the plate voltage was measuring as positive with a resistive load attached,
even though no voltage was applied to the plate...

lancaIV

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3769

If 1 atom(e) and his fission can become measured the question
about free surplus energy or not is not more hindered to become answered because physical test(e)able.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=GB&NR=2122026A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19840104&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

Viewed from one aspect, the invention provides a method of producing electrical discharges, such  as for electrical discharge lamps, in which d.c. or a.c. voltage is applied to two spaced discharge electrodes located in an ionisable medium, and electrically positively charged and electrically negatively charged particles are produced in this medium, characterised in that, in the region of one discharge electrode, both discharge electrodes or a plurality of discharge electrodes, monopolar columns or layers which comprise charged particles and are separated from one another and shorten the discharge distance between the discharge electrodes are formed as a result of an electrical voltage between the discharge electrodes separated by a dielectric, so that the electrical discharge takes place partially between the columns or layers and adjacent columns or layers, or between adjacent columns or layers and discharge electrodes.

The classical electrical capacitor in its simplest form consists of two metal plates which are arranged parallel to each other and are insulated by the dielectric, and on which the opposite electrical charges (+ and -) collect.

This classical capacitor and the present invention differ in the following respect:


instead of the metal plates, ionised gas plasma constitutes at least one of the capacitor plates.


    A classical dielectric is located between such plasma capacitor plates. The electrical discharge then takes place between these plasma capacitor plates.
The most important physical phenomenon with respect to this plasma capacitor is that the discharge voltage builds up between the plasma capacitor plates and the surface of the dielectric.

As a result, only one high-voltage source is required, and this simultaneously provides the electrical voltage for the plasma capacitor and the electrical voltage for the electrical discharge.

Because of the design according to the invention, a monopolar plasma forms at the surface of the dielectric, depending on the polarity of the electrical voltage.
In the plasma thus formed, inelastic collisions occur between negative electrons and positive ions during electrical discharge.In accordance with the invention, elastic collisions between positive and negative ions on the surface of the dielectric take place in addition. These collisions produce monopolar electrostatic pulses.
The frequency of these electrostatic pulses has a very wide range, and is from a few kilohertz (kHz) to several hundred megahertz (MHz).
However, these electrostatic pulses are of low energy and can therefore be advantageously used for producing light in electrical discharge lamps.

Thus, the electrical discharge according to the invention represents, so to speak, a high-frequency generator which produces monopolar electrostatic pulses of low energy.

  cal discharge in a plasma capacitor as described above is unknown in the literature to date.

As mentioned above, monopolar electrostatic high-frequency pulses are produced which result in a higher electron density than that achievable by means of the classical electrical discharge. The higher density of electrons in the discharge gas results in an increase in the number of collisions between the electrons on the one hand and the metal vapour atoms and gas atoms on the other hand, with the result that the luminous flux also increases in proportion. Such a novel electrical discharge can be very
advantageously used for producing light in electrical discharge lamps, since the light yield (in lumens
per watt, Im/W)  is two to three times as high as in known fluorescent lamps.Use of the electrical
discharge according to the present invention does not necessitate any change in the technical principle
of the fluorescent lamps or other discharge lamps. The only change is in the physical principle and in the
device for producing the electrical discharge. The efficiency of the fluorescent lamps which use the
invention is two to three times higher than that of the known fluorescent lamps.As a result of the
improved efficiency, only 50 to 33% of the electrical energy is required in order to produce the same
amount of luminous flux

search : Skin Spin(-tronic) Plasma

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=pavel+imris&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

if you read and explore virtual 4-dimensional his thinking then
you will understand the "surplus iono-magnetic energy field"
reached by capacive windings.


old low cost idea,but probably actually an ambiental pollution problem solver
http://google.com/patents/DE2151220A1?cl=en

equipment for each highschool and university for up to nano-scale measurements :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=manfred+gregor&IN=manfred+alexander+gregor&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

baroutologos

Quote from: Void on September 18, 2017, 09:13:40 PM
and yet, somehow the plate voltage was measuring as positive with a resistive load attached,
even though no voltage was applied to the plate...




Exactly, this makes perfectly sense. The circuitry is closed inside the tetrode with electrons flowing from cold plate to HV grid, thus showing a positive voltage across the resistive load.


In other words, yes no voltage was applied to plate, but it was applied to grid, and due to vicinity with the palte circuit is closed thus making a voltage drop accross resistor.


i do not know... its pretty obvious to me.


cheers and much thanks
Barou

lancaIV

https://www.google.pt/search?client=firefox-b&dcr=0&q=schrodinger+equation&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZq-m2vLDWAhXQYVAKHWbdDdYQBQgiKAA&biw=640&bih=894

here without -in aller Heisenbergschen Unschaerfe- cat

https://www.google.pt/search?q=laplace+operator&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=uKXAWZ2CM7Kp8we4jLrYDQ

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Christofilos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christofilos_effect

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3706385A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19880908&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3706385&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
The electromagnetic pulses (EMP) generated according to this theory represent, in principle, a transversal Compton current which, by means of resonance, influences compact technical systems consisting of electrically conductive material. This highly simplified rendering of the EMP-Compton theory is the fundamental finding and working basis for the investigation of the destructive force of the electromagnetic impulses (EMP). A EMP simulators, devices and apparatus of the prior art have been developed on the basis of this EMP-Compton theory

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton-Effekt

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=264511A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19890201&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870603&CC=DD&NR=246367A5&KC=A5#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860730&CC=DD&NR=237897A5&KC=A5

Turbo

Dear baroutologos,

Please understand that it is not the kinetic energy, or free traveling electrons.
The so called 'ultor' will be the final anode that has the high voltage charge that is acting upon the electrons until they hit their target.
Think of this like modern powder coating where the target is given a high voltage charge to attract the powder particles.
Because it seems to me that you are thinking that the electrons are 'sprayed' onto the target screen whilst they are actually 'pulled' towards it.