Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[rickfriedrich]

Nick,
I don't expect anyone to believe me or anyone.  They have to test things out for themselves.
The problem may not be with you, but as soon as I or anyone posts larger systems then many people are going to get hurt (at least with the rf systems). And the problem before that is that until people understand the basics they will really do some damage with the higher power stuff.
It appears you may be talking about the lower frequency systems. That is fine.
Presently I have no extra time to go off into various schematics as I am trying to begin working on a major new website and presentation that is very important. This will be all organized and highly useful. There is no point trying to put out bits and pieces here.
There is no one schematic. I have hundreds of systems and endless models. That is why I am trying to teach on the principles so that people can pick their flavor with the parts they have. I've never seen anyone approach this research systematically from a simplistic themes or principles approach. The only themes have been too technical or convoluted for most people to understand.

So it may be a few weeks before I can get into specific circuits. My only objective here is to try and encourage people to start at a proper foundation and try and understand the foundational principles and themes. There are some ongoing debates here along these lines and that is all I have time for, as I find it useless to address mistakes that are based on faulty foundations. Hopefully my presentation will make that all clear. It will be a work in progress and never can be perfect.

   
   Rich: Just so you know. I have never doubted you, or your shown devices.
   However, none of this is new for me, nor am I afraid of using higher power inputs, and looping the output back to the input.
I have been doing that for years.   I don't remember seeing any recent schematics of your solid state device that are similar to what you would like to see us build.And similar to what a.21 and itsu are trying to replicate,  to see for themselves if what you are trying tell us can be replicated.
   Maybe you can upload a recent diagram or schematic of your device. As otherwise, we can only guess at what you are doing and how your are doing it. Which can be part of the problem with building your type of replication.   I have not followed this thread from the start, just after I saw itsu going at it. So, I don't know all the facts concerning this or your type of build. Therefore, can you provide a schematic, if you have done so already, just repost it, please.
   If interested, here is a link to one of my Dr. Stiffler "diode loop" tests. https://youtu.be/BZsvtlA_Rgc
   My YouTube channel is under my name, Nick Zec. There you can see some devices that I've worked on over the years.
   And yes, my on going goal is to build a self running solid state device, that is useful, for me. I'm not interested commercializing it in any way. Nor am I any kind of troll, nor someone against free energy, just for the record.

[rickfriedrich]

This is partly true. It doesn't cover all the radiation that can be tapped or used as an influence to create energy gains. If it was then there would be no point to doing any of this, and I would not be able to power many more loads than the input, reduce the input to zero or negative, or multiply out as many outputs from each receiver coils as it becomes a transmitter. Yes, a lot of claims here. I just gave a hint of that in the video and picture. If all that is impossible then it will be interesting to try and prove that. The mainstream theory below is an oversimplification of what is going on. I'm not in a position to properly critique it as I don't want to commit to certain terminology yet and there are several things that are very complex. My focus, however, has always been to exploit the neglected realities and ignored processes. And in teaching on such matters one has to carefully quantify the limits that mainstream say exist and then show that which they ignore. So that is why I ask the kinds of questions I do. And I hope that people can answer them for themselves.
So what kinds of gains can we hope to experience in these kinds of setups? I see below, after the glow, a "but". But there is no completion of the contrasted idea of a saying that there is a difference with a series arrangement. I guess we will all have to experience that for ourselves or hope that G can finish that teaser point. Of course I am still waiting for G to tell us why he believes any real gains can be possible. Once he says that I'm sure all of you will just believe OU is possible and then you will be able to do something practical. 

Hi Nick,
The many receiver antennas for a radio station are usually located far from the broadcast TX antenna wavelength wise. One full wavelength for a long wave (LW) station at say 200 kHz is 1500 m, for a medium wave (MW) station at say 1 MHz is 300 meter. So most receivers receive the so called far field of the TX antenna, many wavelength away from it and the electromagnetic coupling between the many RX and a single TX antenna can only be negligibly small.  This involves little overall power loss in
the TX antenna. One more thing: the received power in a ferrite antenna inside an AM portable radio for instance is but a few microwatts, the mixer and amplifier stages boost up this tiny level thousands time to drive a some hundred mW loudspeaker, using the battery power in the radio. All in all, the overall reflected load to the TX antenna from the many receivers is small.

However, when the RX antennas are close to the TX antenna, in the so called near field of the latter, within say a wavelength (this is mostly an unlikely situation for broadcast stations) the mutual coupling can greatly increase hence the TX power is influenced more and more. The power output of the radio station may get reduced. Notice though there can be control circuits to increase the output as a compensation to maintain nominal output, at the price of increased input power to the transmitter.
There were people tapping nearby broadcast station by erecting big sized antennas and used the received energy for feeding incandescent lamps back in the 20s and 30s, they were punished for stealing energy if they got caught. One reason broadcast antennas are not readily built very close to densely populated areas (other reason would be the very high near field radiation harmful to humans, animals etc). In the present setup discussed here the receiver coils are very close to the TX coil, within a small fraction of a wavelength. This inherently involves mutual coupling not only between the TX and RX coils but between the RX coils too. So basically adding more and more receiver coils would demand more TX power if the TX (antenna) circuit were a parallel LC circuit. But the TX circuit here is a series LC circuit driven from a function generator or from a gate driver IC.  Consider the impedance behaviour of parallel LC and series LC circuits in the function of frequency.
Will continue later.  If you have questions so far, please ask.
Gyula

[NickZ]

Yes all these things are to be considered as part of the experiments in the book. It is not my object to spoon feed students. That way they can discover other things that maybe no one has figured out yet. Depending on how you position the coils you can place hundreds of them around the primary (preferably at the 1.25MHz frequency) without drawing more from the input and while actually reducing it. And it is true that you can also do that wrong and decrease the loads while doing that. "Wrong" is relative to what you want to do. It took me 5 minutes to position all my coils around for that video. There was no attempt to tune for ideal positions. Would take a few hours to do that. But at the meeting I also showed how you can position the coils all around, which includes above and below the open sides of the primary.

   Rick:  Ok, so I have an air coil tuned to 1.2MHz. It's connected to two 12v batteries providing 24v DC to the driver circuit. This Tesla type of secondary coil then provides an output of about 4000v, at 1.2MHz.  What size do the receiver coils need to be?   Like I said, a schematic with all the component values, coil sizes and details would be nice.
   Gyula: Thanks for the reply. Yes, I am aware of the normal coupling issues with far and near field of a radio transmitter.
But, the idea here is to find the anomaly, and not the normal situation with transmitting radio waves.That was really my question.
  Remember what Wesley has mentioned, concerning transmitting electrical signals world wide. To be received and converted to use able electrical power, with little to no losses in signal. Millions of dollars invested in that updated Tesla type of technology.
There must be something to it... as we all know about signal losses over great distances. But, it's what we don't know, that may be important, in this case. Perhaps using a higher input, and placing the receiver coils further away may help. Or not?
   As itsu has shown a slight decrease in input power, while adding more coils onto the main coil, what makes this possible is the question at hand. And how many other coils can also tap into that near field, while dropping the input even lower, to actually obtain a higher output, than the input. Of course, that is still to be seen, replicated and shown. Whether one believes it, or not, is up to each person's discretion.

[gyulasun]

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   As itsu has shown a slight decrease in input power, while adding more coils onto the main coil, what makes this possible is the question at hand.
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Hi Nick,
Please bear with me, I need to finish for today and go out for a short excursion. Will be back in a day's time and answer then. 

Gyula

[forest]

What about the setup Ruslan Kulabuhov proposed ? Some tidy coupled resonant circuits with the output stage having current in the same phase as input current . If output is loaded , current rise but still not influence the input. If the circuits are wireless coupled or by wires or cores is immaterial. I'd like to know if this is possible.