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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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Jeg

Quote from: tinman on August 06, 2019, 07:41:35 AM
When the voltage source is disconnected,the magnetic field now starts to collapse and cut through the windings in the opposite direction. This causes a voltage inversion across the coil,but the current will continue to flow in the same direction through the coil. 
Hi Void, Brad
Thanks for the answers guys.
I wouldn't describe it better than Tinman. Just to mention again that inductive kickback is calculated by the same equation of cemf as it is also a result of opposition to current.

tinman

Oh,i see the open source Koala is behind OU.com bars

::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Anyway,im currently looking for one of those fans Rick is using,so as i can replicate Ricks device setup,and crunch some numbers.

lancaIV

A" delicate"  relationship is also between electricity endconsumer and e-provider to remark :
                       linear Watt versus sinus "Watt"- Volt-Ampere-Frequency power

220 Volts x 45 Ampere ~ 1000 VA but Vp to Vlinear ~ 700 average Watt( ~ DC)  power content

So who is paying 25 Eurocents per 1000 VA -AC is paying 35 Eurocents per KWh. for AC electricity !
Actually "expensive" solar cells/battery-sets systems are belong this net-grid price !

https://www.pordata.pt/en/Europe/Electricity+prices+for+households+and+industrial+users+(PPS)-1479
Wrong calculation and payment : criminal fake or fraud ?
Radiation heat output : per linear Watt or per " sinus"Watt/VA" ?
Now the E.U.-market endconsumer knows why he does not have  to pay for " displacement current compensation" like
the industrial client, because he pays it intra ( internal price calculation) !


lancaIV

Quote from: tinman on August 06, 2019, 08:46:54 AM
Oh,i see the open source Koala is behind OU.com bars

::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Anyway,im currently looking for one of those fans Rick is using,so as i can replicate Ricks device setup,and crunch some numbers.
"extraordinary technology"- devices challenge :
A. Rick Friedrich
B. http://www.keppemotor.com/institucional/keppe-motor-universe-ceiling-fan/?lang=en
C. https://m.phys.org/news/2015-10-inventor-motor-aims-millions-energy.html


Void

Quote from: baudirenergie on August 04, 2019, 07:04:54 PM
I have done this yesterday and it works exactly as Rick shown. I never tried this setup before with the complete conventional fan ciruit in it (only self triggering setups).
I have identical results: Air Flow is the same, my power consuption is slightly lower, but I have also another output to load secondary batteries for free! Why you are waiting for someone. DO IT FOR YOURSELF, START AND MOVING ONE DIODE!!!

Hi baudirenergie. The issue is whether these type of setups might be 'OU' or not, however. 
Energy in inductive switching spikes which normally may be dissipated in windings in the fan
or in other components in the fan such as diodes, can be redirected to pulse a secondary battery, but this still
in no way in itself necessarily indicates anything about OU. I have experimented quite a bit with using inductive
switching spikes in pulse circuits to pulse secondary batteries and unfortunately, no OU. In all my experiments
I have found that the energy is coming from the source battery driving the pulse circuit. Even if you are swapping
the batteries back and forth, the batteries start to run down if you leave it all running long enough.
If there are special exceptions to this where such an arrangement shows possible indications of actually being OU, I have
not ever seen a convincing demonstration of it anyway.

This is the point which some people here have been trying to get across here.
It is an incorrect assumption to think that because you can direct energy from inductive switching spikes,
or similar, to charge a secondary battery or batteries, that this somehow indicates 'OU'.
Such an arrangement actually in no way necessarily at all indicates OU.

Only by doing a proper comparison of average output power to average input power, or by self-looping such
a setup in some way and leaving the self-looped setup running for a suitably long enough time, can you understand
what the real performance of a given setup is in regards to efficiency. If using a battery to power a self-looped setup,
then the suitable run time needed to determine if the circuit might be OU or not depends on the current draw from the battery
in comparison to the battery's Amp-hour rating.

If some people are not understanding and acknowledging the above points, which should all be givens at overunity.com,
then they are only demonstrating that they don't really understand what they are doing.  Sorry, but there is no nicer way to
say it. That is just the plain reality of the situation.