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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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AlienGrey

Quote from: a.king21 on June 07, 2019, 11:42:19 PM
A further point on the Don SMith effect as per his patent.  In a telephone conversation Don stated that there is a further process to his system to get OU.  It's this process which needs to be proved or disproved and it requires some further understanding of the  resonant process.
The initial resonant system is just the start of the process - I am only the messenger here trying to point the theory out.
The claim is that you have to reduce the frequency at resonance to useable frequency .  In order to do that you need to correct the impulse resonant form into DC and then step down the frequency at resonance. The stepping down is claimed to work the same way as a transformer ie reducing the frequency increases the power.




So two choices. POh Pooh the whole concept or get on board  and try it.
Simple.

Just stop shooting the messenger.
Don't take my word that conventional theory is wrong  -  take  MIT as your bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQN7Dke9pX8

Ha ha ha
Well if you have a gyrating magnetic field in the center it's bound to modulate
and induce energy into the circuit.

Ever get that feeling once in a while  8) :o
Is this the type of circuit your looking for it's a crude 30khz in and a modulated 50hz out,

WhatIsIt

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 08, 2019, 09:37:33 AM
Well if you have a gyrating magnetic field in the center it's bound to modulate
and induce energy into the circuit.

Ever get that feeling once in a while  8) :o

Hi AG,

Can you tell more about this circuit?
I don't understand Russian.

Why the second FET is on the high side?

AlienGrey

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 08, 2019, 11:31:17 AM
Hi AG,

Can you tell more about this circuit?
I don't understand Russian.

Why the second FET is on the high side?
re A Kings demodulation into a lower frequency G2 but its just a block diagram
But 50 and 60 hz is very wast full.

gyulasun

Quote from: a.king21 on June 05, 2019, 09:06:21 PM
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Explain how Don Smith obtained a granted patent for the Don Smith Effect.

You need a gauss meter or you are electronically and electrically blind to see the DSE  (Don Smith Effect)
Don Smith did not get a patent, he got a patent application number as member lancaIV explained the meaning of the suffix (A) in Don Smith's Mexican patent application  number MXNL02000035(A).  Link to the application is here: 
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040520&CC=MX&NR=NL02000035A&KC=A#     

I translated some of the relevant text of the application from Spanish to English by google translator:
...
The invention is distinguished in that it is a new and advantageous system whose technology allows to build a transformer, generator of electrical energy, which uses magnetic energy, which by other systems of transformation and generation of electric power, is Irradiated, discarded and wasted. However, by this invention, said magnetic energy becomes profitable electrical energy. Gauss meters show that almost all the energy of conventional electromagnetic devices is radiated back to the surrounding environment of the electromagnetic device, being wasted. In the case of conventional generator transformers, a radical change in the physical construction allows better access to the available energy. Through this Invention it is discovered that creating a dlpole and inserting condenser plates at an appropriate angle (90 ° ninety degrees) where the current flows, allows the magnetic waves to become useful electrical energy (Coulombs). The magnetic waves that pass through the capacitor plates do not degrade, allowing access to all the available energy of the same. One or more sets of capacitor plates as desired can be used for greater efficiency, glued or separated, and with connections in which the generated voltage is collected. The system of parallel perpendicular capacitor plates can be of different materials, shapes and sizes depending on where they are used. Each group or game produces an exact copy of all the force and effect of the energy present in the magnetic waves. The original (magnetic) energy source is not reduced as it is in conventional transformers.
... 
The invention is based on the generation of an electromagnetic dipole (a metal or plasma bar) (for example by means of a potential generator perpendicular to the magnetic flux) and the use of capacitor plates or capacitors as the receiver component and conductor of electric current. The dipole induced in the invention can be created from any resonant substance such as a metal rod, coil and plasma tubes having positive and negative components interacting. When the plasma is used as a magnetic generator, it can be coupled around the plasma system, a system of magnetic generators (for example coils) which in turn can be used as receivers and conductors of electric current. Having as a result that the component of current induction is transformed into useful electrical energy. At the same time, the invention can be self-sufficient, that is to say, once the invention has been started, it can auto-feed itself, by means of a coil connected to the electric power outlet, which generates the same energy quality as that used when starting.
BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS (FIGURES):
The dipole at the right angle allows the magnetic flux that surrounds it to intercept the condensing plates placed at the proper angle. The electrons present are attracted, in such a way that the electrical component of the electron is gathered by the condenser plates. As an essential part of the invention we have the formation by magnetic means of an active dipole with north and south components (figure 1). 
... 
SUMMARY 
The invention relates to a transformer generating electrical energy by electromagnetic means through a potential generator and the use of plates (or coils) capacitors or capacitors as a magnetic energy receiving component that is transformed to electric current. Having as a result that the component of current Induction is transformed into useful electrical energy.   


All this sounds as if Don Smith wanted to get energy by superimposing an Electrical field with a Magnetic field, obtained from two sources and orienting the two fields in 90 degree angle with respect to each other like represented in the Poyinting vector description (Maxwell equations). 

I do not think that such method i.e. applying the Poyinting vector model backwards would yield useful output energy if at all.  I will be stand corrected any time someone builds such setup and proves it can self run as Don Smith claimed in his text.

You also wrote: 

Quote from: a.king21 on June 07, 2019, 11:42:19 PMA further point on the Don SMith effect as per his patent.  In a telephone conversation Don stated that there is a further process to his system to get OU.  It's this process which needs to be proved or disproved and it requires some further understanding of the  resonant process....
I wish you good luck to apply the further process needed to get OU. 

Gyula

a.king21

Don said the following re the plasma tube device.(audio 2003) "First of all you have to change your radio frequency and you change it to pulsating DC. Once you've done that you can use it just like ordinary electricity.."  The reason I am banging the drum about the frequency reduction component is that it features in Kapanadze's patent application in the L2 part of his device, so there is a comon thread to both Don SMith and Kapanadze.  Rick also would not give me any details saying it's too dangerous because volts can become amps.


So come on guys  (and gals)  especially the EEs.  How do you reduce frequency in an electrical circuit with a gain???
Even how to reduce the frequency without a loss would be good.
Funny how the silence about this subject on the internet  is DEAFENING!