Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[AlienGrey]

Don said the following re the plasma tube device.(audio 2003) "First of all you have to change your radio frequency and you change it to pulsating DC. Once you've done that you can use it just like ordinary electricity.."  The reason I am banging the drum about the frequency reduction component is that it features in Kapanadze's patent application in the L2 part of his device, so there is a comon thread to both Don SMith and Kapanadze.  Rick also would not give me any details saying it's too dangerous because volts can become amps.


So come on guys  (and gals)  especially the EEs.  How do you reduce frequency in an electrical circuit with a gain???
Even how to reduce the frequency without a loss would be good.
Funny how the silence about this subject on the internet  is DEAFENING!

2 ways i would have thought as Don did it charging up capacitors with timing RC circuit but you still have the voltage now and you have amps in your caps, with out some kind of feed back cut off circuit.

Or use a transformer wound on a tube and re modulate it in blocks like a train carriage and some kind of cut off circuit control.

Remember your trip to Lithuania and the electric fire and the aquarium.  think about how that worked.

[itsu]

A.king21,

it is just too simple to hide behind the phrase "don't shoot the messenger".

If you are willing to spout claims which are not normally understood or even confusing, then you can expect all kind of comments and questions.


What do you mean by:
"you have to reduce the frequency at resonance to useable frequency"?
And: 
"you need to correct the impulse resonant form into DC and then step down the frequency at resonance"?


# What is a "useable frequency"?  50Hz?  60Hz?  180Khz?
# Reducing a frequency (guess of an LC circuit) is easy, just increase the L or C, is that what you mean?
# what is "the impulse resonant form"?  Do you mean the input signal into a resonant LC circuit?
  Its pulsed DC in my case (gate driver).
# what do you mean by "and then step down the frequency at resonance"?  How would one do that without disturbing resonance?


You (DS, RF) just cannot "think up" something that might work (step down the frequency at resonance) and then challence the EE's to come up with a solution.

Its no wonder to me why "the silence about this subject on the internet  is DEAFENING!" an EE would not touch this.

The use of a resistor to pull the frequency down to suit the step-down transformer in one of DS famous contraptions using an ARRL table, see the PDF page 89 / bottom in this link:  https://tinyurl.com/yymrqcsl  is already long debunked as nonsense.

I am still building, testing and measuring the Big and small coils, but all attempts up till now show the same results as in my previous tests.

Regards Itsu

[citfta]

A.king21,

it is just too simple to hide behind the phrase "don't shoot the messenger".

If you are willing to spout claims which are not normally understood or even confusing, then you can expect all kind of comments and questions.


What do you mean by:
"you have to reduce the frequency at resonance to useable frequency"?
And: 
"you need to correct the impulse resonant form into DC and then step down the frequency at resonance"?


# What is a "useable frequency"?  50Hz?  60Hz?  180Khz?
# Reducing a frequency (guess of an LC circuit) is easy, just increase the L or C, is that what you mean?
# what is "the impulse resonant form"?  Do you mean the input signal into a resonant LC circuit?
  Its pulsed DC in my case (gate driver).
# what do you mean by "and then step down the frequency at resonance"?  How would one do that without disturbing resonance?


You (DS, RF) just cannot "think up" something that might work (step down the frequency at resonance) and then challence the EE's to come up with a solution.

Its no wonder to me why "the silence about this subject on the internet  is DEAFENING!" an EE would not touch this.

The use of a resistor to pull the frequency down to suit the step-down transformer in one of DS famous contraptions using an ARRL table, see the PDF page 89 / bottom in this link:  https://tinyurl.com/yymrqcsl  is already long debunked as nonsense.

I am still building, testing and measuring the Big and small coils, but all attempts up till now show the same results as in my previous tests.

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu,

The part I highlighted in red is the very reason I decided Don Smith was either very confused or a scam artist.  As I think you know I am a Ham so I was already pretty familiar with the ARRL handbook.  I was also familiar with that chart that Don used very incorrectly to make his claim.  Up until I saw that in one of his videos I thought he might actually have something.  When I saw that I then became very skeptical and then the more I saw the more I realized he was spouting out a bunch of garbage.   His claim that a neon sign transformer was already OU because the open output voltage times the shorted output current was more power than the input is also a false claim.  You measure output power by measuring both the current and voltage while under load as anyone with any electronics training already knows.  Those are only two of the red flags I saw while watching some of his videos.

As I have said before,   I like Rick,  but I am very sorry to see he has fallen for the baloney put out by Don Smith.


Respectfully,
Carroll

[Hoppy]

This guy sums it up in his first couple of sentences.   

[forest]

citfta
May I ask two questions ?

1. Is it true that resistance in radio LC circuit will change Q factor and make resonant "point" wider ?2. Can you make LC circuit of high Q factor and then connect proper antenna and have standing wave inside it without radiating EM wave with the same amps and voltage rise as in LC circuit ?